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How to instantly ruin a good action sequence!

Yeah, that darn "hero exemption" rule. How does your vehicle tumble over thirty times, explode into a ball of flame and then you can crawl out without a scratch while a bad guy dies while tripping over a street curb.
 
Other things that ruin a good action sequences; although, if these elements turn up...then the action sequence technically isn't...good. (Hmmm...)

Anyway:

A random [fruit stand/hot dog stand/woman with a baby carriage/old woman taking her time/traffic] comes in the way of a chase between the protagonist and antagonist, or chaser and 'chasee' (made up word, I know)....

Or the glaziers walking an 8' long piece of glass/mirror across a roadway, or the delivery truck that happens to pick *that exact moment* to pull out of a side alley and block the pursuit...

Except for that bit in "Wayne's World 2" that had all of these things. :lol:
 
The icing on the cake: After all the vehicles are disabled and 99% of the bad guys dispatched by the hero, the one last hold-out bad guy who still clings to life takes aim at the hero. The audience THINKS the hero doesn't know the baddie is about to take him out but then the hero A: fires a last shot B: drops a lit match C: tosses a smoldering cigarette or D: otherwise triggers a MASSIVE pay-off explosion that leaves NO DOUBT all the bad guys are finished as the hero STRIDES in slow-motion toward the camera and the huge, angry flower of red, yellow fire and flying debris fills the screen behind him in the greatest eruption since Krakatoa--and all the while, the hero cannot be bothered to flinch from the sound or concussion or even glance back at the destruction of his handy-work. He's CONTENT the job is done.

I

HATE

THAT!!!
 
Shaky-cam. F***ing hate it. I want to see the action not a sequence that looks like it's filmed by someone with cerebral palsy. Especially if the action involves complex martial arts.
 
I am also tired of actions scenes/sequences where the front window of a speeding vehicle is shot out and/or beaks into large shards. All vehicles have had laminated safety glass since the 1950's. It also gets irritating that whenever a character fires at almost *any* vehicle, rather than bullet holes there are sparks shown. LAME!

Oh, and how characters, who are in a vehicles being fired upon, never get hit by any bullets that would (obviously) penetrate the thin skin of a car.
 
Another thing that always bugs me in an action movie... the hot chick who can ditch her shoes and still be able to run around a fraggin' mine field or city or building and not stub her toe, cut her feet up, or stop because she stepped on a pebble or some tiny piece of debris. And let me tell ya... even a little pebble or a screw or a piece of something HURTS!

I mean like True Lies, Jamie Lee is barefoot for most of the big action stuff and she's running around outside, inside buildings and not once do you see her limp or stumble.

Die Hard was the most realistic in that regard where at least he hurt his feet and limped around a bit.
 
^Camille in Quantum of Solace walks several miles through the Bolivian desert with bare feet. :)
 
Oh, and how characters, who are in a vehicles being fired upon, never get hit by any bullets that would (obviously) penetrate the thin skin of a car.

That was nicely averted in the film Alien Nation. Roger Aaron Brown's character was hiding behind a car from a baddie with a high-powered rifle, and the shots blew huge holes clear through the car. The only sense in which it provided cover was that the bad guy couldn't see exactly where he was. But in the long run, it didn't protect him.
 
Regarding the exploding fuel-tank, this trope was actually averted in Terminator: Salvation of all films! It's in the scene where Marcus and the female lead find the hideout full of mercenaries and are attacked by a 100' terminator (way to infiltrate!)
They roll a truck out to it, then fire shot after shot at the fuel tank - and nothing happens!!! :techman:
 
I can't stand it. I was watching the season finally of "Burn Notice" tonight and generally enjoying it when they did something that made me actually cringe. Yep, you guessed it, the "car in a high speed chase that hits something and pops into the air rolling to one side". I mean come on. This was a dated effect before the "A Team" was canceled. Why do effects teams still fall back on this cliched visual? It's so over used that it instantly takes me out of what I am watching.

Anyone else have an effect that ruins a show/movie for you?

Maybe the Wilhelm scream? I think it has move from homage to ubiquitous at this point.

On the other hand, maybe you are watching way too much TV when something like that annoys you.


Shaky cam and seisure inducing editing is what really destroys action scenes.
 
^Maybe, but for me it's this sort of unrealistic crap - especially the sort mentioned in broberfett's thread that means I go days at a time without watching any.
 
I always hate (and this is especially bad in Indiana Jones and Bond movies) when the villains have a mini-gun or other type of machine gun firing DIRECTLY AT the hero, and instead little dust clouds pop up either right in front of or right behind the hero, indicating that the bullets being fired DIRECTLY AT THEM are falling short.
 
I haven't watched any of these teen dance movies that have come out in the past few years, but the reviews all seem to indicate that the actual dance scenes are edited and hacked up to death with all these quick cuts and close ups, basically wasting the time and effort they put into choreographing and performing them. But that sort of thinking also kills a lot of action scenes too. If there was an awesome martial arts fight scene between Jet Li and Ray Park, wouldn't you like to actually be able to SEE it?
 
I think my favorite variation is the guys outrunning an explosion, usually in slow-mo. :lol:

There was a great bit in an NCIS episode a few years back. Searching a room they find a bomb. Team immediately runs outside and dives behind the car just in time for.... nothing. They then proceed to call the bombsquad.:lol:

Another thing that always bugs me in an action movie... the hot chick who can ditch her shoes and still be able to run around a fraggin' mine field or city or building and not stub her toe, cut her feet up, or stop because she stepped on a pebble or some tiny piece of debris. And let me tell ya... even a little pebble or a screw or a piece of something HURTS!

One of my favorite moments in T2 is Sarah Connor running around in the asylum. It can clearly be seen that she is barefoot, but the sound effects crew has added in the sound of hard-soled shoes as she runs. Unfortunately, this seems to have been corrected in some edits of the film.
 
I haven't watched any of these teen dance movies that have come out in the past few years, but the reviews all seem to indicate that the actual dance scenes are edited and hacked up to death with all these quick cuts and close ups, basically wasting the time and effort they put into choreographing and performing them. But that sort of thinking also kills a lot of action scenes too. If there was an awesome martial arts fight scene between Jet Li and Ray Park, wouldn't you like to actually be able to SEE it?

That's what's great about Serenity. In both of Summer Glau's big fight scenes, Joss Whedon eschews quick cutting in favor of long master takes that let us see in no uncertain terms that Glau really performed these long, elaborate stunt sequences straight through without a break, an extraordinary feat of athleticism and skill. It was frustrating by constrast to watch Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles and see all of Glau's fight scenes so hacked apart with quick cuts that it was impossible to appreciate her physical performance.

That said, there are contexts where that kind of frenetic quick cutting actually works. Batman Begins has a great example, the sequence where Batman makes his debut going up against the mobsters. The editing skillfully captures the fog of battle, the mobsters' fear and uncertainty as this unseen figure picks them off one by one. It's like a monster movie with Batman as the monster, which is the perfect way to portray how criminals perceive Batman. In that case, obscuring the action was the right choice narratively and stylistically, rather than just being a gimmick.
 
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