Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Romulan_spy, Jul 15, 2020.
I'm not generalizing; I'm simply pointing out the flaw in your citing the emergence of VR tech as justification for use of holo controls aboard La Sirena.
That said, the production team do appear to be shoehorning those holo interfaces all over the place regardless of suitability; this is certainly including, but absolutely not limited to, La Sirena's bridge.
I imagine one of the forward consoles could be configured to be helm for captains that don't want to control the ship themselves.
Hell his holo interface might be custom because he doesn't have a crew, and maybe doesn't trust, or just doesn't want a hologram/computer to fly it.
I figured the helm was just either a civilian knock-off of (or maybe even upcycled?) antique Starfleet tech anyway, since apart from the touchscreens/holos it looks like something that would fit neatly between ENT and TOS...
Oh, I dunno. That warp drive system is pretty small and pretty fast for something from between ENT and TOS. I just always figured it was a cheap, bare-bones 24th Century civilian cargo ship that was never given a lot of amenities.
I'm referring specifically to the helm console.
I don't think the emergence of VR tech is justification. I think that hologram tech being in Star Trek pretty much does that.
You literally cited the current trend of VR. If you intended to do something else you'll have to be more clear.
Besides which, the mere presence of holotechnology in Trek as a whole does not in itself justify its illogical, ill-conceived depiction by the STP showrunners.
That people move their hands around to control technology. Apologies if I wasn't clear.
Though I did reference moving hands in my post. I don't know how I could have been more clear...
I disagree for a wide number of reasons. Mileage will vary at this point because apparently the holograms are so egregious in their execution that people cannot fathom someone actually liking them!
I completely agree. I watched this video a few weeks ago. The hologram consoles in Picard look like any other sci fi movie or tv show. It’s tired, cliched, cheap and a boring effect.
I love how EC made his own effect within minutes. It was to prove wrong to anyone who loves the effect and thinking that it takes a genius in effects to pull it off. Lol
It’s looks cheap. Also the whole waving you’re hand around and then adding the graphics just looks stupid. The marvel movies while not the first to do this have made the holo touch super popular in everything. So know Star Trek Picard just looks like a cheap knock off. I say bring back lcars.
People have to move their hands to use almost any interface. You still wouldn't want to use a mouse to control a moving vehicle, nor would you use cursor keys to draw in photoshop - and the simple issues of ergonomics and RSI risks alone means you wouldn't want to use midair holo-interfaces to type a lengthy letter. Do you get my point?
Whether you like them is entirely your choice and I really, truly don't mind in the slightest, but it's nevertheless irrelevant in the context of a thread which is quite clearly about improving the interfaces. I myself already commented with ideas on how to do so that didn't involve scrapping them entirely, but you've done nothing but try to defend the things. Apparently you can't fathom that we don't all have to applaud poorly executed, generic sci-fi tropes...?
then why are you on this thread?
yeah it’s definitely a generic sci fi trope. It’s a cheap effect that lazy and not so creative effects teams do now a days. Honestly what is even the advantage of having a holographic display right in the helm? There is no advantage.
Because at some point the nitpicky bull shit needs to be called out for what it is.
So what is it?
Nitpicky bull shit.
My my, someone clearly places a high value on their own opinion...
I'm sorry if your standards are so low that you consider a desire for quality to be "nitpicky." Luckily, you're not the arbiter of what gets to be debated - despite your apparent delusions to the contrary.
And if we're going to talk about "bullshit", then let's begin with those who enter a pretty constructively-titled thread with no intention other than to discourage the discussion, simply because "Waaa! Waaa! You won't swallow the Star Trek I like!"
I have discussed at length.
While I wasn't specifically calling out all of your posts, I also note that you didn't want to discuss improving the depiction - merely to try to justify it (as I already pointed out). And then when that failed, you turned to petty hyperbole and insinuated a lack of tolerance on the part of others.
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