Wouldn't that depend on if they liked the show?You won't be saying that if it ends with a cliffhanger...![]()
Wouldn't that depend on if they liked the show?You won't be saying that if it ends with a cliffhanger...![]()
I'd applaud but I'm too busy going "Yes!" and clenching my fists in celebration because you put this so well.While I totally agree with you, this is precisely why you see some people so "up in arms" about Discovery. They want what they want...but they're not getting it. So they dial up the hate-o-meter, set the "jump to illogical negative conclusions machine" to maximum, and stomp around actually hoping that it will fail. Because it's not enough that they hate it...it has to fail so their opinion can be justified and they be proven right.
Never underestimate the importance of being right.
Wouldn't that depend on if they liked the show?
I heard that the last movie lost 50 million.
They will reboot, before they makec another.
Really, You're going top go with the "Ratings = Quality" argument here?Not according to the ratings!![]()
That's WAY better to the run-up period to the release of TNG in 1987.people can spin it whatever way they like, but approx 3 out of every ten trek fans are not positive about the show.
This is the cbs targeted audience, and before the show even airs 30% are less than positive.
I fail to see the positives in that.
1987 was before the days of social media.That's WAY better to the run-up period to the release of TNG in 1987.
Nah, in the age of social media it's the 1-2% who are really loud and have the platform to be seen more than ever.1987 was before the days off social media.
Now days that 30% is actually 30% instead of just 1-2% who are really loud and have the platform to be seen.
There has been a ton of stuff since since 2005, Pocket has released twelve books every year, 10 PC and console video games, 3 or 4 mobile games, and IDW has released at least a couple hundred comics in that time. So there has been plenty of stuff coming out for Trek fans.How is anyone still a Star Trek fan with no new wealth of material since 2005?
3 movies don't count.
Nice movies, but a drop in the ocean compared to me needs.
I'm sorry, but with a fandom that can be as hard to please as Trekkies, I think 7 out 10 people liking Discover is incredible. I never would have expected to actually be that high. To be completely honest, I would have been shocked with anything over 40% or 50% given how negative and vocal the really hardcore fans can be.people can spin it whatever way they like, but approx 3 out of every ten trek fans are not positive about the show.
This is the cbs targeted audience, and before the show even airs 30% are less than positive.
I fail to see the positives in that.
I love the ratings game, especially when its referenced with Box Office earningsReally, You're going top go with the "Ratings = Quality" argument here?![]()
It is amazing to see how much product is still coming out for Trek, regardless of a show's status or film production.There has been a ton of stuff since since 2005, Pocket has released twelve books every year, 10 PC and console video games, 3 or 4 mobile games, and IDW has released at least a couple hundred comics in that time. So there has been plenty of stuff coming out for Trek fans.
I'm sorry, but with a fandom that can be as hard to please as Trekkies, I think 7 out 10 people liking Discover is incredible. I never would have expected to actually be that high. To be completely honest, I would have been shocked with anything over 40% or 50% given how negative and vocal the really hardcore fans can be.
The "Akiraprise" thing never made sense to me whatsoever.Okay I just need to say it:
Funny how Enterprise got flak (and still does) for its "Akiraprise", but the Shenzhou really is just an Akira class, complete with pointy 24th century nacelles and hull textures.
I mean... eh![]()
Who is this "we" you speak of?Doing it again with the Shenzou (yes it's a ripoff too despite added greebles) reminds some us of a series we don't remember fondly.
That's a two way street.While I totally agree with you, this is precisely why you see some people so "up in arms" about Discovery. They want what they want...but they're not getting it. So they dial up the hate-o-meter, set the "jump to illogical negative conclusions machine" to maximum, and stomp around actually hoping that it will fail. Because it's not enough that they hate it...it has to fail so their opinion can be justified and they be proven right.
Never underestimate the importance of being right.
I see vague similarities in the shape, but that's about it.NX-01 was a shameless copy of the Akira class. Akira was a "guest" ship that many loved and didn't mind when ENT ripped it off since they brought a cool design to the foreground. Doing it again with the Shenzou (yes it's a ripoff too despite added greebles) reminds some us of a series we don't remember fondly. That and they should have been more original 15+ years later.
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"We" being those who mentioned the Shenzou looks like it's right out of Enterprise. How many starships did we see in Enterprise that didn't have this design barring the mirror Defiant?Who is this "we" you speak of?
Seeing them "side by side" actually illustrates their differences.
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