Poll How Old Are You?

[RJDiogenes]

I remember going down the old mine with a transistor radio.

The line methinks is Civil War.

I agree. That's when I finally bailed on Marvel completely.

In Armour Wars I, Stark electrified Steve Rogers into unconsciousness, after The Captain got in the way of Stark vandalizing/destroying Government property (That had been stolen from Stark.).

I'm not familiar with that.

Shortly before Rhodey took over in the 80s, Stark drunk out of his gourd drunk-flying into/through billboards.

Ah, Iron Rhodey. The best period in Iron Man history and the only time I collected the book on a regular basis. Yeah, Stark was an arrogant drunk, but he was a humbler man when he recovered. Unfortunately, later writers, who wanted to make him more "interesting," focused on the arrogance. Good people aren't "interesting."

Earlier? Back in the transistor days, Wasp and Giantman were on the outs. Stark took her out on the town, emasculating his friend Hank Pym, by probably banging his wife Janet.

If I remember correctly, that was before they were married. She actually married him when he lost his memory and thought he was Yellowjacket.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Oh, it was the 60s, they couldn't do anything outright amoral or the Comics Code Authority would sic them. Stark didn't even know Giant-Man (Goliath?)'s secret identity at that point, so he tried to hive-5 Pym about "tapping that".

(Gross exaggeration, but again, it was the 60s and sorta what happened, but a really tame version of what I just described.)

Armour Wars 1.

Stark befriends a villain, Blizzard, confiscates the boys armour, and while dissecting it, notices that a great deal of the underpinning technology in there is from his own secret Iron Man designs that he decided were way too dangerous to patent.

Years earlier, Spymaster had stolen a database from Stark International, and then sold Iron Man "in pieces" to a lot of bad people and the US Government. Tony invented a hand held disrupter, that would slag any Starktech inside some other bugger's armour when it was pressed on that other persons armour, which would mean that Tony Stark'd no longer be responsible for all these Villians murdering and wrecking chaos with his "weapons".

The mass produced "Guardsmen" armour used to police the US supervillian prison The Vault was Iron Man technology. Breaking into The Vault to frag dozens of Guardsmen armours, seemed like a break out, so an alarm was sounded that Steve Rogers, Nomad and falcon responded to, to stop the supervillains breaking out as Iron Man broke in.

"The Captain" (Steve quit being Captain America because the Republicans wanted to tell him what to do.) viewed Iron Man as a criminal, and wanted to defend US Government assets from a "saboteur". Iron Man only won this fight because he zapped Rogers while his back was turned trying to save a non-combatant from peril.

Iron Man 225 -231

Captain America 340 -341

 

[Spider]

I'm 65, watched the original Star Trek on NBC when I was in high school.

 

[pigletsgiblets]

I'm 37.

 

[RJDiogenes]

"The Captain" (Steve quit being Captain America because the Republicans wanted to tell him what to do.) viewed Iron Man as a criminal, and wanted to defend US Government assets from a "saboteur". Iron Man only won this fight because he zapped Rogers while his back was turned trying to save a non-combatant from peril.

I remember when Steve was The Captain, but I don't believe I read any of that. I don't remember a bit of it (except the Guardsmen being watered-down Iron Men).

 

[Guy Gardener]

There were Guardsmen in Thunderbolts #1 that came out last week.

Guardsmen are still a thing.

Bucky (the Wintersoldier) leads the Thunderbolts now.

Cool thing though is... Mach IV is Mach X now.

That name is tight.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Winter Soldier is the second reason I don't bother with Marvel anymore.

"Nobody dies but Bucky."

And Uncle Ben. He'll be back next.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Yeah, Ben's around.

There's some alternate universe Sliders stuff going on.

Uncle Ben (with Spider powers) lives with (and fathers teenage) Spider-Gwen.

In 616, Aunt May is Married to J. Jonah Jameson's Father.

If you squint, that means that Peter and Jonah are brothers now.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I'm a little shocked.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Uncle Ben (with Spider powers) lives with (and fathers teenage) Spider-Gwen.

Nah, AUs are cool. But I'm sure there will come a time when Uncle Ben returns to life as a bionic Mafia hit man with a cybernetic chip in his skull that compels him to kill Spider-Man, or something.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Peter David and Todd Nauck while writing Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-man (what a name, right?) in 2005ish where regular 616 Aunt May ran afoul of a Mirror Uncle Ben, who was thinking about wooing her.

At least a 6 issue story, but Ben just faded into the crowd in the end.

Hmm?

Am I reading that wrong or were Jarvis and Aunt May chilling for a time?

Well.

It looks like I must have have blocked that out for my own piece of mind.

 

[cooleddie74]

I'm currently 41 and will turn 42 just before Election Day.

That means if Trump wins I'll be considered too old and his force of East European supermodels will hunt down and eliminate all males in my age group before we contaminate the purity of Trump America™ and all that it stands for.

And it'll be the classiest, sexiest America we can think of.

 

[RJDiogenes]

At least a 6 issue story, but Ben just faded into the crowd in the end.

So there's an alternate Uncle Ben wandering around out there, like the Gwen Stacy clone? That's just trouble waiting to happen.

Am I reading that wrong or were Jarvis and Aunt May chilling for a time?

Well.

It looks like I must have have blocked that out for my own piece of mind.

Aunt May has always been portrayed as elderly (there must have been quite an age difference between her and Pete's father) and Jarvis as middle-aged. Wouldn't she be too old for him? Or have they ret-conned Aunt May's age?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Jarvis has never been middle aged?

If anything he's old enough to be Tony Stark's father usually, and Stark has almost always been in his 30s. Note when Stark did regress to a teenager, he still identified Jarvis as some one who had authority over him.

Like Alfred Pennyworth, they both fought in WWII, for much longer than than they should have in 616 continuity, before that continuity was adjusted. I always thought that these two boys were always in their early 50s.

 

[Tim Walker]

59 years old. I started watching TOS half a century ago.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Jarvis has never been middle aged?

If anything he's old enough to be Tony Stark's father usually, and Stark has almost always been in his 30s. Note when Stark did regress to a teenager, he still identified Jarvis as some one who had authority over him.

Like Alfred Pennyworth, they both fought in WWII, for much longer than than they should have in 616 continuity, before that continuity was adjusted. I always thought that these two boys were always in their early 50s.

I always figured Jarvis for being 60ish, while Aunt May was in her 70s. She was certainly much frailer, and always on the verge of a heart attack. Stark always seemed to be in his 40s, somewhat older than Reed Richards.