How much time should pass between this and the sequel?
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Sounds good to me. Give them a couple of years off-screen to learn about the ship and begin to relax, then throw them into "universe-saving" mode. Preferably with Admiral Pike along for the ride.
And the earlier films had NO such issues.
Ummm...
Khan, Search, and Voyage Home all took place within a few months.
Care to check and see over how many YEARS they were filmed?
Let me help...
FOUR.
If it can work one way, it can work the other.
I wouldn't mind if they jumped forward to the V'Ger incident, give us a brief rundown on what happened in this timeline, and then move on to the Enterprise's SECOND five year mission.
I always chuckled at the end of TMP, with it being implied that Kirk was "stealing" the Enterprise and had NO intention of giving her back...at least not as soon as Starfleet might have liked.
It'd be nice to see what happened next, even if the timeline is a bit different.
That's because the actors were a lot older, and once actors get beyond 30 or so, it becomes easier to fudge the age of the actors visually.
This is a much younger cast, and as they will likely age more visibly between movies, it only makes sense to do it this way.
The Second 5 year mission is conjectural, and not established Canon (i.e., not portrayed or mentioned on screen).
Also, we have not even reached the movie's equivalent of the FIRST 5 year mission yet, if it even has the 5 year concept for the mission in the new timeline/reality.
Truth be told, it is a very minor thing.
A good story and a good script are both key to a good movie.
Personally I don't think they did a great job at fudging the TOS crews aging in-between II, III and IV. IV is supposed to take place a few weeks after II right? Yet they've aged noticeably between those two films, for obvious reasons.
Very good points have been made already from "entertain me" to "a few years" , "a few months" and "same but yet not same.." etc. etc.
At the end of STXI, Vulcan is no longer where its supposed to be. And only a handful of vulcans have survived. The repercussions of this cannot be simple. For one thing every major event in the history of the Federation should be altered or delayed. The Romulans might decide to take advantage of the situation in some way. The Federation may no longer consider it necessary to honor the Treaty of Algeron given that a Romulan almost wiped out a founding member of the Federation. The Klingons may sense weakness and ally themselves with the Romulans...and so on.
I think whatever STXII is, it cannot be a simple "away mission on a deserted planet with a new life form" or a "rescue mission to a distress call in the farthest regions of charted territory". It would have to be quadrant-altering in some way...maybe Khan doesn't end up being a megalomaniac dictator, but advocates genetic manipulation...leading to opposing camps within the Federation and civil war.
Watching the crew interact and bringing out their inner turmoils in the context of a much larger mission to protect the quadrant from itself would be a great formula for the story of STXII.
But please, no more time travel.... I'm having enough headaches with keeping Terminator, Star Trek, Enterprise and everything else in order.
Just my take on how the story might shape up
. A few years or a few months hence doesn't matter to me though.
At the end of STXI, Vulcan is no longer where its supposed to be. And only a handful of vulcans have survived. The repercussions of this cannot be simple. For one thing every major event in the history of the Federation should be altered or delayed. The Romulans might decide to take advantage of the situation in some way. The Federation may no longer consider it necessary to honor the Treaty of Algeron given that a Romulan almost wiped out a founding member of the Federation. The Klingons may sense weakness and ally themselves with the Romulans...and so on.
I think whatever STXII is, it cannot be a simple "away mission on a deserted planet with a new life form" or a "rescue mission to a distress call in the farthest regions of charted territory". It would have to be quadrant-altering in some way...maybe Khan doesn't end up being a megalomaniac dictator, but advocates genetic manipulation...leading to opposing camps within the Federation and civil war.
Watching the crew interact and bringing out their inner turmoils in the context of a much larger mission to protect the quadrant from itself would be a great formula for the story of STXII.
But please, no more time travel.... I'm having enough headaches with keeping Terminator, Star Trek, Enterprise and everything else in order.
Just my take on how the story might shape up
. A few years or a few months hence doesn't matter to me though.
A few minutes or years, doesnt really matter unless the story is good enough.
Who cares if they look a little older.
Personally, i just want a good story, doesnt matter whether its within the five year mission, thats even if they run with the concept, afterall, its now an alternate reality, they can do what they damn well please.
As long as the gangs all there and Pike is there to 'Punch It' im in.
Who cares if they look a little older.
Personally, i just want a good story, doesnt matter whether its within the five year mission, thats even if they run with the concept, afterall, its now an alternate reality, they can do what they damn well please.
As long as the gangs all there and Pike is there to 'Punch It' im in.
I'd like to see them on their first real mission as an official crew. That would be really cool. With TOS, we entered after that and so never saw it - the very earliest days.
I say do that story while Pine, Quinto, Urban, etc are still young enough to pull it off and not looked like they've aged much from what they looked like in Trek XI. Especially with Quinto, whose character ages very slowly, that is essential.
I say do that story while Pine, Quinto, Urban, etc are still young enough to pull it off and not looked like they've aged much from what they looked like in Trek XI. Especially with Quinto, whose character ages very slowly, that is essential.
I say about a hundred years or so, then make it a TNG DS9 VOY clusterfrak reboot. Let's see how many people that'll piss off.
DontFeedPhil
Fleet Captain
Maybe the 2nd movie can be about that big statue thing that Harland wrote. The Guardian or something? I cant remember if thats right...
Would that work?
Would that work?
Omega_Glory
Commodore
I think there should be some time gone by with Kirk acting a bit more mature considering his postition.
Omega_Glory
Commodore
^^^^Thats for goddamn sure!!!Roughly the same amount of time that passes between the films, a couple of years. But make it the first major challenge they have to deal with. Follow the traditional trilogy format, first film characters are established, second film they struggle and mostly take a beating, third film everything gets resolved.
Um I'm prettty sure the Treaty of Algeron was signed in the 24th century.
Also the Klingons will probably be pissed at the Romulans over the 47 warships Nero destroyed.
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