How many people before it becomes wrong?, Star Trek Insurrection

[Tenacity]

I haven't seen one piece of evidence showing the Federation claimed the planet before the Baku settled there. And that's a major difference.

The Federation is made up of multiple members, the Vulcans were interstellar over a thousand years before joining the Federation

Perhaps the Federation claims the Brier Patch because one of it's members held a claim on the region for centuries prior to joining the Federation.

I suspect the Federation government knew exactly what it was doing, but it was also being driven by the most devastating war in its history.

I don't think the Dominion War had anything to do with the Federation wanting to collect the planet's rings.

stand. I'm ashamed of what my ancestors and government have done to millions of people to allow me to live where I currently reside

I'm Cuban, I have no guilt for my ancestors actions, I wasn't there to influance them, to egg them on, or try to restrain their actions.

Scribble, where does your feeling of guilt come from?

None of us are responsible for our ancestors deeds.

 

[Sibyl]

I don't feel personally responsible for their actions, but I do feel bad for modern indigenous people that are fighting the United States Government that is running roughshod over them for lands that were "set aside" for them many broken treaties ago.

No personal guilt and I don't feel that I, myself, owe anyone anything (except respect), but guilt is just a part of my personality that I've lived with all my life. There's a little more to it, but in a way, I feel ashamed of my ancestors in a similar way to me feeling sorry for someone that tripped over their own shoelaces. I had nothing to do with their tripping, but I feel sympathy for them, hence, "I'm sorry."

 

[Nightdiamond]

The Federation is made up of multiple members, the Vulcans were interstellar over a thousand years before joining the Federation

Perhaps the Federation claims the Brier Patch because one of it's members held a claim on the region for centuries prior to joining the Federation.I don't think the Dominion War had anything to do with the Federation wanting to collect the planet's rings.I'm Cuban, I have no guilt for my ancestors actions, I wasn't there to influance them, to egg them on, or try to restrain their actions.

I thought about that one, but then another problem came up; If the planet that clamed this region was warp capable, they would have known the Baku were settling on one of their planets. They could have contacted them and established some type of understanding.

If they weren't warp capable and incapable of detecting and communicating with the Baku, then would they have a right to claim the planet? If they eventually became warp capable and started claiming planets in their area and then joined the Federation, would that be legal or ethical?

 

[BillJ]

Perhaps it should be "How many people does it take to make Insurrection interesting?"

Seriously, 600 people just weren't enough for me to care in the slightest. Maybe if they had been 600 interesting people...

 

[Tenacity]

If the planet that clamed this region was warp capable, they would have known the Baku were settling on one of their planets.

Not necessarily, the Baku were looking for some place to hide, it might make sense that they (to the best of their ability) quietly entered the Brier Patch.

Maybe if they had been 600 interesting people...

One day, maybe TPTB will use CGI to replace the blond hair, blue eyed, Aryan hippies with your interesting people..