How far did the starship Titan get?
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no, they were strictly in the Beta Quadrant.
they were several weeks travel at high warp from the Fed at the time of Destiny, such that they were in no position to be recalled to be any help.
they were several weeks travel at high warp from the Fed at the time of Destiny, such that they were in no position to be recalled to be any help.
By the time of "Gods of Night", they were in the interarm expanse between the Orion and Carina arms, in the Beta Quadrant. That's a long way short of Delta Quadrant, but beyond explored territory. 
Also, Titan wasn't heading in the direction of the Delta Quadrant. Their course was pretty much perpendicular to that direction. Here's Titan's course in Orion's Hounds:
http://home.fuse.net/ChristopherLBennett/ExM-OHmap.jpg
They're heading toward the right as shown on this map (and on the Star Charts maps in general), and the DQ is way past the top of the map.
Also, in terms of distance, I think they'd made it less than 2000 light-years as of Destiny, and the nearest edge of the DQ is at least a dozen times that far away. The galaxy is a verrrrrrrrrrrrry big place.
Post-Destiny, after they return to the UFP and set out again, they're still heading out into the Beta Quadrant, but more toward the lower right of the map rather than directly to the right. As of the main body of Over a Torrent Sea they're about 860 light-years from Earth. So by Synthesis they'd probably be closing in on 900 ly away.
http://home.fuse.net/ChristopherLBennett/ExM-OHmap.jpg
They're heading toward the right as shown on this map (and on the Star Charts maps in general), and the DQ is way past the top of the map.
Also, in terms of distance, I think they'd made it less than 2000 light-years as of Destiny, and the nearest edge of the DQ is at least a dozen times that far away. The galaxy is a verrrrrrrrrrrrry big place.
Post-Destiny, after they return to the UFP and set out again, they're still heading out into the Beta Quadrant, but more toward the lower right of the map rather than directly to the right. As of the main body of Over a Torrent Sea they're about 860 light-years from Earth. So by Synthesis they'd probably be closing in on 900 ly away.
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I don't remember reading it, but is there a reason Titan didn't return to it's previous position? Is it going to get back there via a roundabout route through a different part of the Gum Nebula?
Well, here's the thing... When I wrote Orion's Hounds, I set up the Gum Nebula as a vast volume that could conceivably keep the ship busy for decades, and introduced some species and political entities that I thought later writers might be willing to build on. But instead, Marco and subsequent writers decided to take a different approach. Sword of Damocles had the ship heading out beyond the Gum Nebula, and by Destiny it had travelled far enough to be out of the Orion Arm altogether (though just barely). So my retcon for why the ship moved past the Gum Nebula was that Starfleet felt it had gotten adequate charts and data on the region from Titan's contacts with local powers like the Pa'haquel and the Vomnin Confederacy, and was eager to push farther to get as much information as possible about faraway territories for the benefit of later slipstream ships.
I also figured that with the loss of one Luna-class ship in SoD and the temporary crippling of another in Greater Than the Sum, Starfleet would be redistributing the other ships in the fleet to maximize coverage. So I decided that when the time came to send the ship back out again, it would take a different route than before -- something that would keep it relatively closer to home for a while but would still be in uncharted territory. However, I chose a path that runs kind of just past the Gum Nebula, so that there was a possibility they could still run into powers like the Vomnin if I got an opportunity to do a story along those lines. So basically I was trying to keep my options open.
So little is said about Beta Quadrent. All I can remember about it from screen is Captain Sulu saying we are not in beta quad. when telling Capt Kirk how long it would take them to get to The Kitomer Peace Conf. Glad it gets used in the new series STAR TREK: Titan. For long like I was like this place is so close, they know nothing about it, and BAjor and Deep Space Nine are the 'edge of the final frontier'?
I wanna learn more about Beta Quadrant when school is done.
I wanna learn more about Beta Quadrant when school is done.
the BQ's home to roughly half of the UFP, as well as the Gorn, Klingons, Kinshaya, Kreel, Romulans and the Thallonians.
I doubt it, didnt "Over a Torrent Sea" have something near the beginning where they said slipstream equipped ships would eventually go and do further and more extensive exploration of the areas the Luna class were moving through?
If that is the case, I cant see the Titan getting slipstream herself anytime soon.
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Hmm maybe. But given that Titan is doing cursory surveys and pushing the UFP's charting frontiers, I think they should be given a slipstream drive so they can get back quickly in the event of an emergency, or help out if another nearby (in slipstream distances) ship is in distress.
Hmm maybe. But given that Titan is doing cursory surveys and pushing the UFP's charting frontiers, I think they should be given a slipstream drive so they can get back quickly in the event of an emergency, or help out if another nearby (in slipstream distances) ship is in distress.
Well, VGR: Unworthy establishes that the benamite crystals on which slipstream drive depends are quite rare. That would presumably limit the ability of Starfleet to equip its entire fleet with slipstream capability. There's also the fact, as I mentioned in OaTS, that the Federation's resources are spread very thin rebuilding after the Borg invasion, so there are bound to be limits on how much and how quickly Starfleet can upgrade its fleet.
You mean... they're supposed to come back? First I've heard of it... 
IIRC, in Sword of Damocles, doesn't Jaza mentioned that he had signed up for a three-year mission? So (if that were the case) wouldn't that mean that Titan's initial mission of exploration due to last about that long? (That line reminded me of Sulu's log entry at the beginning of The Undiscovered Country about having wrapped up a three-year exploration mission...).
Which in my opinion makes not much sense. Wouldn't it be more logical to let the "slow" standard-warp drive ships do the near and intermediate surveys (In much more detail), while the faster slipstream-drive ships are doing the real longe-range exploration and quick, rough surveys of vast areas as a preparation for a second wave? ("These are the voyages of the Starship Aventine on it's five-year mission to circumnavigate the galaxy."
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i really wish they hadnt .
i really loved the utter oddness and complexity of the nebula.
I agree. Though I took it to mean the slip stream ships wouldnt be ready any time soon, so the Luna class will go on exploring and seeing whats out there now, and when circumstances, time and resources permit a fleet of slipstream equipped exploration ships to be built and spared for the mission, they'll go out and follow up on what the Luna class ships found.
("These are the voyages of the Starship Aventine on it's five-year mission to circumnavigate the galaxy."
I would read that book!
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