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How do you tell someone it will be OK?

After going through all those traumas listed, a person really needs some counseling. You might also want to suggest that she join an online community like TrekBBS; that will give her lots of people to talk to, which is likely to make her feel better.

That's a subtle marketing ploy. ;)
Heh. If I was marketing, I'd tell you to send her to ReNext. :D

It's just that online communities are a lot different than real life. Sure, some of them suck, but the good ones allow you to be yourself and talk about the things that matter to you, and it doesn't matter where you've been or what's happened to you before. You meet a lot of people who understand what it means to be hurt and alone, and who are willing to give you support. For a lot of folks, just having a place to come to and socialize relieves the pressure of what they feel is social exile. TrekBBS is a great place for that, and there are others.

I mean, check out this Thread: She's got a bunch of new friends already and she's not even here yet.

I'll have to tell her to join sooner.

As soon as she decides to text me back.
 
My heart goes out to both of you. The only advice I have to offer has already been mentioned: professional help.
 
PKTrekGirl said:
All you need to tell me now is that your mom is controlling, narcissistic, obsessed with looks/weight, an addictive personality herself, and/or has very high standards that she expects your sister to live up to, and I'd tell you it was absolutely textbook (that comment about you guys not talking to your mother is no shock at all to me - none whatsoever!).

I have one word for my mom: French. She was born in Paris, France and moved to Raleigh, North Carolina when she was four.

She was high maintenance before she married my dad, who was just a bartender, but she scaled back.

And after my dad died she gained 80 lbs making her 250, she had six kids so we all left a lot of weight on her, and she's only finally started to work to get it off.

However, my mom's fiancé I would place a lot of this with, he's an asshole. Same with my older sister Joanna's husband. They're both cruel mocking people. To her and myself especially. And I see know how they are.


I'm not sure if she's throwing up at school. But she spends a good 70% of the week at my house. 20% is school and 10% is home. So it is possible during those times she is.

Well, just keep in mind that she doesn't have to actively be throwing up to have an eating disorder. In fact, given that she is 5'2' and 200+, I'm guessing she is probably not throwing up right now. But she might well be binging....which is just as much a part of the disorder as the throwing up part is. Again, you might only be seeing those 6 small meals a day, and she would likely only mention those. Binging is often a very secretive behavior for girls with eating disorders. And by 'secretive', I don't mean 'you can just look in the garbage to see if she is binging or not'. I mean, 'women with eating disorders can put your average prison inmate to shame, in terms of acquisition and consumption of contraband (in this case, food) under the radar'. :lol:

If she can get counseling at all along the lines I discussed earlier, I would really recommend it. And as others have discussed, a supportive environment of non-critical (especially of her weight) friends/family would be helpful also. As would some exercise & fresh air.

I just don't believe her medical condition accounts for the fact that she is 5'2" and 200+ pounds. I mean, I have a very slow metabolism also (due partly to genetics and partly to the fact that I had an eating disorder in my 20's)...but at the end of the day, it's still calories in vs. calories out. And if I were a betting woman, I would bet that she is eating a lot more than what she's telling you about. I'm guessing it's her 'pressure valve'. But of course, it is also her nemesis.

That is the sucky thing about an eating disorder. Drug addicts and alcoholics can and do quit using drugs or drinking completely. It's the only way for them to stay sane and healthy, in the end. People with eating disorders, however, can't just quit (not to imply that quitting is easy, but you get the idea). You can't 'quit' eating. You have to somehow find a way to make peace with food/weight obsession. You have to find a way to get up every day and EAT...but not fall into a binge. You still have to DO the destructive activity - you just have to find a way to do it less. And as any addict will tell you, that is very hard to do, once you get going. And that is really hard to do without addressing the underlying forces that are causing the behaviors.

If your sister has an eating disorder, diets won't help for now. Not even Weight Watchers, which is about healthy eating and support in their meetings. No...if she has an eating disorder, counseling would be my first pick. And if she can't do that, I would recommend Overeaters Anonymous (OA) - which is free and like AA, NA, etc. I didn't go that route myself - I went to counseling (which I paid for with my own money, since my mother thought I was 'faking' my eating disorder in order to be 'cool' :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: ), but at least she would find a supportive environment there full of people who are struggling with food issues.

EDIT: Also, if you sister does have an eating disorder and joins TrekBBS, please tell her she is welcome to PM me about her situation. I've been there, done that, got the Tshirt..and sometimes it just helps to talk to someone who has struggled with the same issue. Living with an eating disorder is like living in hell - it really is. And I've been there...if she wants to discuss it with someone with a drawer full of tshirts. ;)
 
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This is the only picture I had of her that she wouldn't kill me for, the other ones I'd be dead before I could post them.

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That's not how you double-dutch. :p

You go ahead and come up with a compliment that says she looks nice without coming off as creepy because she's 16 year's old, I'm tired and words don't come out goodly.

But seriously, she doesn't look 216 in that photo.
 
That's because she wasn't then. Then I'd guess 178 maybe. That was three years ago.

I deleted my Myspace so I lost a good portion of my pictures. It took me forever to find a newer one, but it's hard. She avoids camera's like the plague.

This is the newest I could find, November of 2009 I believe, I probably should have blurred her friend's face.
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She still doesn't look her full weight, to be honest. :) Nah, she looks nice; I think she has pretty good taste in clothes too. Now if only I could say the same about her taste in cinema. :p

I probably should have blurred her friend's face

Depending on which friend, with acid...
 
She still doesn't look her full weight, to be honest. :) Nah, she looks nice; I think she has pretty good taste in clothes too. Now if only I could say the same about her taste in cinema. :p

See I'm always telling her that. She looks good. Stupid teenagers and societal peer pressure.

I picked out that shirt :D I do most of her clothes shopping, she hates it.

She got over the Twilight Saga. Now she can't stand them.

Thank God

HoneyBLilly said:
I probably should have blurred her friend's face

Depending on which friend, with acid...

That wasn't a friend who was mentioned. They just rarely hang out now.
 
She has a fabulous smile! one of those " lights up the room " ones, absolute cutie, makes me wonder a little bit if some guys are a little intimidated by her, she may have a little bit of extra weight but she's still quite pretty and teen boys are stupid and insecure too.
 
If she does join this forum you are going to have to ask for this thread to be deleted.

Most teenagers in a bad patch (which can last for all of high school of course) just really need something to work out positively and well in life. Then need one or two stable mature friends, or a job that they enjoy that gives them money and self esteem or a goal they can pursue whether hobby or career that they grow in confidence in being able to achieve. When you are an adult you can actually go out and find these things, get rid of the stuff that doesn't work, change life around to try and have positives in your life. But teenagers feel powerless, they are stuck in school, stuck at home, the future seems overwhelming, they so not have the tools to move out of their social setting and try on new ways of interacting and new ways of having friends.

In many ways you have to nursemaid them through these years until their brains mature and they move out of that powerless stage that hangs on from childhood. It's amazing how much happier and well adjusted a lot of people are once they are adults, interacting in an adult world rather than trapped in the very artificial world of being a high schooler. You probably won't solve any of her problems but being their for her, including her in your life, letting her know you need her is all great stuff. If you can share some pursuits and all engrossing interests that's good too, it's almost like for some teenagers you have to keep them mentally occupied and emotionally engaged in something outside themselves to get them through those years.
 
If she does join this forum you are going to have to ask for this thread to be deleted.

I strongly agree with this.

I think it was wrong for you HoneyBLilly to post photos of your sister her without her knowledge, even if your intentions were good.

I'm remembering how you said she was upset about friends talking about her behind her back. If she stumbles upon this thread it could unsettle her in exactly the same way -- seeing pictures of herself and people talking about her, only reinforcing the fact that people do talk about her behind her back. Which could possibly damage your relationship with her.
 
Over the past two years my little sister has lost many friends.

One of them committed suicide by running out in front of a car

One died in a drunk driving accident

One of her best friends was abducted and then returned a month later just this past winter.

Two months ago her friend got her into a car wreck and stopped talking to her.

Last month another one of her "best friends" told her that she was a "pathetic creature who had no friends and would die a lonely old hag." All because her "best friend's" friend told her that she ugly so she reacted and told him to "f*** off and get a life."

And just today one of her best friends was hit by a car after his friend pushed him lightly on his longboard. He's in critical condition.

And through all of this I've been there for her: she was teased when she was little for liking Harry Potter(she read the second book by herself when she was six), she was teased for being smarter than everyone, she was teased because after my dad died my mom began making only sugary food because she was depressed and my little sister became fat, she's 16, turning 17 on May 2, and she's never been kissed. On top of this all her body is making too much Prolactin, which is a hormone that produces lactation with pregnancy, it also causes bloating of the hands, feet, and abdominal area; there's why she can't lose weight.

I've advised her through all of this, but now the help seems to has run out and all I can say "It'll pass." And today she finally broke down and yelled at me.

I don't know what to do. I was fat in high school and stuff, but I wasn't ridiculed this bad. Sure a few cheerleaders here and there but still . . . I don't know what to do anymore. I'm her closest girl sibling, in relationship and age.

My rule of thumb is to never tell someone it's going to be okay if you don't know for sure or don't have a plan.

And about the weight issue. Prolactinoma can be treated. And for keeping your weight or getting a desired weight, the only option is - dare I say it - working out.
 
If she does join this forum you are going to have to ask for this thread to be deleted.

I strongly agree with this.

I agree also. I think everyone here has the best of intentions toward your sister and we genuinely want to help her, and help you to help her.

But she probably doesn't need to read this thread.
This is true. Everybody is being very nice, but it would be best if she doesn't see this. If she joins the BBS, please notify all the Misc Mods so one of us can at least hide the Thread and then see what Bonz and Spiff want us to do with it.
 
If she does join this forum you are going to have to ask for this thread to be deleted.

I strongly agree with this.

I agree also. I think everyone here has the best of intentions toward your sister and we genuinely want to help her, and help you to help her.

But she probably doesn't need to read this thread.

She knows about it. I generally don't hide things from her. But she finally called me, even if it was at 3 am, and we talked for two hours.

She knows about the thread I got that out pretty quick, she's not angry and understood why.

If she does join this forum you are going to have to ask for this thread to be deleted.

I strongly agree with this.

I think it was wrong for you HoneyBLilly to post photos of your sister her without her knowledge, even if your intentions were good.

She knows about the pictures. Her response was, "at least they weren't the one's from Christmas. But did you have to out me as former Twi-hard."

I'm remembering how you said she was upset about friends talking about her behind her back. If she stumbles upon this thread it could unsettle her in exactly the same way -- seeing pictures of herself and people talking about her, only reinforcing the fact that people do talk about her behind her back. Which could possibly damage your relationship with her.

She said she's not counting this as back talk. That was one of my concerns too. She gets why I did, the only thing I have to do for her is give her something good for her birthday. I think she meant money, or perhaps I'll finally get the tickets for Las Vegas for her. Probably both.

And about the weight issue. Prolactinoma can be treated. And for keeping your weight or getting a desired weight, the only option is - dare I say it - working out.

There's also a hormone that she could take, however Medi-Cal doesn't cover it.

But she has been working out, today she just walked from her house downtown to mine all the way across town. I know this because she had sneakers on, she hates sneakers.
 
But she has been working out, today she just walked from her house downtown to mine all the way across town. I know this because she had sneakers on, she hates sneakers.
But that's not working out.

She goes to the gym three or four days a week. Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and occasionally Sunday.

She does yoga, pilates, jogs a mile on the ellipticals, and Zumba, along with that she's begun learning belly dancing off of YouTube.
 
Now if only I could say the same about her taste in cinema. :p

My taste in cinema is perfectly fine. :)


I claim temporary insanity.



As for everything else: I dabbled with bulimia, it lasted maybe a week and I threw up all of maybe three times, in comes protective older sister. I do not binge. The friend who stopped talking to me after the accident once commented while she was at my house about how hungry she was because I don't eat a lot.

I do work out as my sister said.

And thank you. :)

Mair, you picked a good picture. Why don't we have any together?
 
Now if only I could say the same about her taste in cinema. :p

My taste in cinema is perfectly fine. :)


I claim temporary insanity.



As for everything else: I dabbled with bulimia, it lasted maybe a week and I threw up all of maybe three times, in comes protective older sister. I do not binge. The friend who stopped talking to me after the accident once commented while she was at my house about how hungry she was because I don't eat a lot.

I do work out as my sister said.

And thank you. :)

Mair, you picked a good picture. Why don't we have any together?

You have a good sister :) Welcome to the insanity...
 
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