How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 70s?

[Christopher]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

So did Majel Barrett. She pressed to obtain the merchandising rights for "Kung Fu". I think it was the only non-Roddenberry show featured in the Lincoln Enterprises mail order catalogue.

I just checked the one old Lincoln Enterprises catalog I still have in my collection, and there was one other non-GR series with scripts and film frames available. It was a 1972-3 series called Search, created by Leslie Stevens (The Outer Limits), and it was produced by Bob Justman,which is probably why it was in the catalog. It sounds like kind of an interesting show.

 

[Nardpuncher]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

In the spirit of keeping this thread fun and not over-analyzing

I see what you did there....well done!

 

[ToddPence]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhRGqT31WZg

 

[trevanian]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

So did Majel Barrett. She pressed to obtain the merchandising rights for "Kung Fu". I think it was the only non-Roddenberry show featured in the Lincoln Enterprises mail order catalogue.

I just checked the one old Lincoln Enterprises catalog I still have in my collection, and there was one other non-GR series with scripts and film frames available. It was a 1972-3 series called Search, created by Leslie Stevens (The Outer Limits), and it was produced by Bob Justman,which is probably why it was in the catalog. It sounds like kind of an interesting show.

I saw the pilot a long time ago, and THAT was good. Hugh O'Brian was in it, and I think Angel Tompkins was a lab tech (kind of that era's GraceLeeWhitney.)

 

[Elder Knight]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

All seriousness aside (as Steve Allen used to say), the occasional better episodes could have been two hours long, a concept that only arrived sometime after TOS.

 

[Maurice]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

Not like TOS ever did a two-parter... ahem.

 

[Christopher]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

All seriousness aside (as Steve Allen used to say), the occasional better episodes could have been two hours long, a concept that only arrived sometime after TOS.

Do you mean episodes aired in a single 2-hour block, or just 2-parters? Because 2-parters were common in the '60s. ST's sister show Mission: Impossible had six 2-parters and a 3-parter in its first four seasons. The Fugitive had four 2-parters in its 1963-67 run. Bonanza and The Wild Wild West had 2-parters during the years TOS was on the air. And so on.

 

[trevanian]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

All seriousness aside (as Steve Allen used to say), the occasional better episodes could have been two hours long, a concept that only arrived sometime after TOS.

Do you mean episodes aired in a single 2-hour block, or just 2-parters? Because 2-parters were common in the '60s. ST's sister show Mission: Impossible had six 2-parters and a 3-parter in its first four seasons. The Fugitive had four 2-parters in its 1963-67 run. Bonanza and The Wild Wild West had 2-parters during the years TOS was on the air. And so on.

Man From UNCLE used to stick 2parters together to make instead cheapie movies for overseas theatrical release (sort of like GR wanting to shoot an extra action scene or two for CAGE to release IT as a movie.)

 

[Christopher]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

Man From UNCLE used to stick 2parters together to make instead cheapie movies for overseas theatrical release (sort of like GR wanting to shoot an extra action scene or two for CAGE to release IT as a movie.)

Mission: Impossible did that too. The second-season 2-parter "The Council" was released overseas as the awkwardly titled Mission: Impossible Vs. The Mob. (As if "Mission: Impossible" was the actual name of the team or something.) I'm sure there were other cases. (Heck, the pilot of 77 Sunset Strip was released as a movie in Puerto Rico slightly before its TV debut so that the studio could claim the show was based on a movie they owned and thereby steal credit from Roy Huggins, creator of the prose character the show was actually based on.)

 

[Pauln6]

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Battlestar Galactica opened with a 3-parter, which was edited into a movie and it's two-part episodes were just about the only ones that were any good.

 

[Christopher]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

^Yes, but that didn't precede TOS so it isn't relevant here. We're responding to the apparent assertion that 2-parters didn't become common until after TOS.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

TOS had an almost two parter: The Naked Time and Tomorrow is Yesterday were written/proposed as a two-part story.

 

[Christopher]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

^Yep. Which is why "The Naked Time" ends with a time-travel hop that has nothing to do with anything. It was meant to be a setup for the next episode, but when the link was dropped, it was a plot orphan. I don't know why they didn't just write the time travel out of the script altogether.

Although it's a stretch to call it a 2-parter. They were still two separate stories, just with the end of one setting up the next.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

True, more of a cliffhanger than a true two parter.

 

[Steve67]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

1) Instead of gold, blue, and red, the shirts would've been brown, burnt orange, and avocado

2) Leonard's book would've been called I Am Not Paris.

3) The women would've had Toni Tennille "mushroom cap" hairdos.

4) Eric Braeden as Spock.

 

[Maurice]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

Battlestar Galactica opened with a 3-parter, which was edited into a movie and it's two-part episodes were just about the only ones that were any good.

BSG opened with a 3-hour (with commercials) movie event. Before it was aired, a 2 hourish version was released theatrically in Canada. The longer version may have been cut up into episodes later.

 

[trevanian]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

Spock? Screw that, Eric Braeden as KIRK (and Bond for that matter.)

 

[Elder Knight]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

Now, you'll see that I did say "two hours," not "two one-hour parts."

 

[Therin of Andor]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

BSG opened with a 3-hour (with commercials) movie event. Before it was aired, a 2 hourish version was released theatrically in Canada.

And in Australia. IIRC, it was in Sensurround(TM), the vibrating theatrical sound system devised for "Earthquake"!

And then there was another batch of made-for-US-TV episodes which became "Mission Galactica: The Cylon Attack".

 

[trevanian]

Re: How different would things have been if TOS had been made in the 7

BSG opened with a 3-hour (with commercials) movie event. Before it was aired, a 2 hourish version was released theatrically in Canada.

And in Australia. IIRC, it was in Sensurround(TM), the vibrating theatrical sound system devised for "Earthquake"!

It was sensurround here, too. I saw all four of the pics released that way, though it really only worked well -- and I mean beautifully! -- in in EARTHQUAKE.

Still didn't make up for Ava Gardner as Lorne Greene's daughter.