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How did Klingon, Kazon, etc become spacefarers?

They had their scientists, they are just ofscreen. The same way those are offscreen in Farscape or Andromeda.
 
Appereantly, according to a novel (The Art Of The Impossible) Klingons went into space to seek revenge on invades; Ch'gran rallied his people to set of into space to seek revenge on the Hur'q. He build seven starships, which were all lost after sending news they found a world to settle on.

Later on in the novel, it's revealed that this is not quite true, though...

We know little about the Hur'Q, and less about the nature of the Klingon society back when the Hur'Q came. For all we know, Klingons were already starfaring at that time - or then they had yet to reach iron age, considering that the myth about Kahless forging the first sword dates back to that era, too. Or at least Kahless is tied to the Hur'Q in legend, but you never know about exact timing with your mythical heroes.

For all we know, the Karsids from Ishmael are the very same as the Hur'Q from "Sword of Kahless", Art of the Impossible, Left Hand of Destiny et al. If so, we could speculate their victims to be alike, too. And we know the Karsids considered the 19th century United States good prey...

Yeah, I thought the whole water-shortage plot device in the early Kazon episodes seemed a bit far fetched. Once you have warp travel, you should be able to find lots of water. It really is one of the most abundant substances in the cosmos.

But the water shortage only seemed to apply to those Kazon stuck on a desert planet and squabbling about the rights to exploit the natives. They couldn't have left to get water, because they would have lost their claim, then. And ultimately they would have been hard pressed to create water in situ on that desert even if they had the technology, because their technology would run out of raw materials soon enough.

It doesn't appear as if the writers ever intended the audience to think that all the Kazon everywhere would be lacking in water. (They just lack in bathing...) Neelix essentially only explained that all Kazon lack something, and that these specific ones could be bought with water.

Not forgetting that apparently advanced piece of neuro-interfacing nastiness, the Klingon mind sifter.

...You mean the device that completely failed to reveal that Spock was lying? ;)

IIRC, somebody wrote a (Strange New Worlds?) short story about the device once, indicating it was a hoax merely intended to intimidate those being interrogated. :devil:

A couple of other novels indicated the tech was stolen or otherwise obtained from advanced ancients, though - several consider it a Vulcan/Romulan invention.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Was talking to a woman from South Carolina, who had recently purchased a electric car (Chevy Volt), she couldn't understand why I said her car was powered by coal.

Where does the coal go in a Chevrolet Volt then?

Her car isn't powered by coal, her car is powered by electricity. That electricity may have been generated using coal, but that isn't the same thing.

I don't think it was so much her 'not understanding' when you said her car was powered by coal, so much as you trying to be arrogant and failing.
 
Appereantly, according to a novel (The Art Of The Impossible) Klingons went into space to seek revenge on invades; Ch'gran rallied his people to set of into space to seek revenge on the Hur'q. He build seven starships, which were all lost after sending news they found a world to settle on.


As for the Kazon, their ships are all Trabe ships, a species they shared a world with and who used the Kazon as slaves. The Kazon rebelled, took the Trabe ships as their own and conquered the Trabe, forcing them of their world.

That's exactly it. The Klingons stole all of their technology from the Hur'q; the Kazon did the same with the Trabe.
 
The same way that the Japanese got technology. Trading it with more advanced cultures. Or stealing it from the same.
 
We saw a Klingon engineer in The Drumhead.

And when Martok, Worf, Bashir, and Garak were prisoners of the Jem'hadar, Martok seems to indicate that doctors in the Klingon are held in high regard since they "bind the wounds of the warrior so he can continue the fight" or something like that.
 
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