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How Canon is Endgame?

Lord Manitou

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Since so much interest is given to the enigmatic last two episodes Endgame, what phrases in the last 15 minutes were spoken that are most Canon?

Janeway: Take us in.
Aye, Captain.
Voyager has entered aperture eight two three, access transwarp corridor zero nine. Redirect vessels to intercept at subjunction (Queen gets an electric shock, voice becomes garbled)
Must be something you assimilated.
What have you done?
I thought we didn't need words to understand each other.
You've infected us with an neurolytic pathogen.
Just enough to bring chaos to order.
The Admiral succeeded, Captain. The conduit's shielding is destabilising.
Now, Mister Tuvok. (fires torpedoes)
Voyager will be destroyed.
They're ahead of the shock wave. They'll survive. Captain Janeway and I made sure of that. It's you who underestimated us.
(pulls off a disintegrating arm) Sphere six three four. They can still hear my thoughts. I may have assimilated your pathogen but I also assimilated your armour technology.
(leg falls off) Captain Janeway is about to die. If she has no future, you will never exist and nothing that you've done here today will happen. (Queen dies, central complex explodes)
What the hell is it?
A transwarp aperture. It's less than a light year from Earth.
How many Borg vessels?
We can't get a clear reading, but the graviton emissions are off the scale.
I want every ship in range to converge on those co-ordinates now.
Yes, sir.
Aft armour is down to six percent.
Hull breaches on decks six through twelve.
I can't stay ahead of them, Captain.
The armour is failing.
Where's the nearest aperture?
Approximately thirty seconds ahead, but it leads back to the Delta quadrant.
Mister Paris, prepare to adjust your heading.
Yes, ma'am.
We've got eighteen ships in position, Nine more on the way.
Open a channel.
Open, sir.
This is Admiral Paris. Use all necessary force. I repeat, all necessary force.
Sir, there's a vessel coming through.
Mister Paris, what's our position?
Right where we expect it to be.
The transwarp network has been obliterated, Captain.
We'll celebrate later. Mister Tuvok?
Cease fire!
We did it.
We're being hailed.
On screen. Sorry to surprise you. Next time, we'll call ahead.
Welcome back.
It's good to be here.
How did you?
It'll all be in my report, sir.
I look forward to it.
JANEWAY: Thanks for your help, Admiral Janeway.
Sickbay to the Bridge. (baby crying in background. Kim chuckles)
Doctor to Lieutenant Paris. There's someone here who'd like to say hello.
You'd better get down there, Tom.
Yes, ma'am.
Mister Chakotay, the helm.
Aye, Captain.
Set a course, for home.
 
Is there any canon where they talk about cannons? That would be the most canon cannon canon.

Your wish...:vulcan:

TUVOK: Direct hit.
KOVIN: The target buoy is solid monotanium, ten metres thick, shielded by a chromoelectric force field.
JANEWAY: Impressive.
KOVIN: I'm glad you agree. It's not wise to travel this region without adequate defences. I've seen scuttled ships with more firepower than Voyager.
JANEWAY: I'm sure you have.
KOVIN: Imagine what you'll be capable of once the isokinetic cannon is integrated into your defensive systems. One projectile can penetrate the shields of any heavily armoured vessel. Hostile species will know to avoid Voyager by reputation alone.
JANEWAY: You've made your point, Mister Kovin. I want the cannon, and I'm prepared to give you Astrometrics charts spanning twelve sectors. You'll find them unusually precise.

:rommie:
 
I'd like to take a cannon to those idiots who wrote such an abominable episode. :klingon:
 
Is there any canon where they talk about cannons? That would be the most canon cannon canon.
They should get Nick Cannon to to guest star on a future episode of Trek. They can have Cannon deliver a canon line about cannons. Bonus points if Pachabel's Canon is playing in the background. Or, to be more subtle, the 1812 Overture.
 
Is there any canon where they talk about cannons? That would be the most canon cannon canon.
They should get Nick Cannon to to guest star on a future episode of Trek. They can have Cannon deliver a canon line about cannons. Bonus points if Pachabel's Canon is playing in the background. Or, to be more subtle, the 1812 Overture.

:guffaw:

I can't believe I forgot about the PHOTONIC cannon! :alienblush:

The Emergency COMMAND Hologram http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7Kvuu3CPZU&feature=related









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From Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy's teaser.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKAL_219oH8










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It was filmed. It was aired. It's canon. Like it or not, that's the way it works.
 
It is possible to be tricky in how you choose to interpret it, though.

For instance, ENT's finale took place entirely on a holodeck. Therefore, the only canon it establishes is that such a holodeck program exists in the 24th century. It doesn't firmly establish anything about the 22nd.
 
Therefore, the only canon it establishes is that such a holodeck program exists in the 24th century.

And that Riker and Troi suffered from extreme weight fluctuations during the Pegasus mission. General consensus is that it was the Tallarian flu. I hope the novels some day explain it.
 
It is possible to be tricky in how you choose to interpret it, though.

For instance, ENT's finale took place entirely on a holodeck. Therefore, the only canon it establishes is that such a holodeck program exists in the 24th century. It doesn't firmly establish anything about the 22nd.

To quote Alan Moore: "This is an IMAGINARY STORY (Which may never happen, but then again may)...This is an IMAGINARY STORY...aren't they all?"
 
Look at it another way. The bulk of Endgame and Nemsis take place in an alternate reality.

To draw a parallel with Trek 09

In Trek 09 Spock and Nero travel back in time and Vulcan is destroyed.

In Endgame Janeway travels back in time to get Voyager home 16 years earlier than previously. Which she succes in doing

Applying the same Logic that was applied in Trek 09, we witnessed a new timeline.
 
Actually, Voyager could have been in an alternate timeline long before season 7, going by all the temporal fuckery they did.
 
^It wouldn't have been so bad had they not indrocued the fact that the Starfleet of the future monitors the timeline and sends back officers to correct anything that shouldn't have happened.

I hate Temporal Mechanics
 
Look at it another way. The bulk of Endgame and Nemsis take place in an alternate reality.
There is no other possible explanation than the fact that "Endgame" takes place in some alternate universe where complete bullshit is suddenly possible.

Worst ending to a series, ever. The only way that idea could have worked is if they pulled a Dallas and the whole episode is Harry Kim's dream, and Voyager is still 40 years away from Earth.
 
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