How about a Captain Jack show,set in space?

[Starkers]

If nothing else the Doctor has much better PR...

Well he's got a few years on Jack, it's like trying to have Slugo-Cola compete with Coke.

Has he? Ok so Jack spent about a 1000 years buried alive which might not really count as living, but still technically JAck's older isn't he?

I'd have no problems with a Jack-in-space show, as that's what the end of Children of Earth gives us. Jack's gotten the fuck off Earth, he's running from himself, and what does he do? Does he hunt down every last Four-Five-Six and frag those alien smackheads? Does he hook up with the Shadow Proclamation? I don't know. But coming back to Earth and hanging around Cardiff now seems so limiting.

I have no problem with Jack turning up in space in Who, but after CoE seeing him hanging round with space Rhinos and the Shadow Proclamation might seem a bit silly. After CoE Torchwood's really left the Whoverse behind somewhat, and I think it would be a shame to take backward steps.

 

[wamdue]

Has he? Ok so Jack spent about a 1000 years buried alive which might not really count as living, but still technically JAck's older isn't he?

yes if you include the years spent buried alive, or frozen in the Torchwood vault he is older than the Doctor.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Has he? Ok so Jack spent about a 1000 years buried alive which might not really count as living, but still technically JAck's older isn't he?

yes if you include the years spent buried alive, or frozen in the Torchwood vault he is older than the Doctor.

That's the reason why I don't feel there's a story in Jack's missing two years anymore. Or at least, for Jack there's no longer a story there. For Jack, even before he was buried alive by Grey, that was 120 years in his past. He'd lived, he'd loved, he'd had children. The missing two years meant something when he met the Doctor. But by "Everything Changes," it wasn't a factor in Jack's life any more.

On the other hand, that's the oddity about Jack meeting Captain John in the second season for Torchwood. John was so far in Jack's past that he should have been, essentially, a complete stranger.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Someone (I think it was Starkers) suggested awhile ago that we could see the story of Jack's two missing years from a different perspective and yet still have relevance to Jack (and The Doctor). I believe his idea was that The Eleventh Doctor would run into Jack while he was still a Time Agent prior to "The Empty Child" and, for whatever reason during the course of their encounter, The Eleventh Doctor decides to wipe two years of Jack's memories. I thought that was a pretty cool idea.

 

[The Wormhole]

I personally like to think that Jack's missing two years could be when he met himself. That is, the immortal Jack meets up with younger Jack. Immortal Jack for some reason wipes young Jack's memories.

Hey, it could work.

 

[matthunter]

I personally like to think that Jack's missing two years could be when he met himself. That is, the immortal Jack meets up with younger Jack. Immortal Jack for some reason wipes young Jack's memories.

Hey, it could work.

There doesn't even need to be any real reason for Jack wiping those specific memories though - they were the reason he quit the Time Agency and ultimately bumped into the Doctor... perhaps immortal Jack is the reason Jack meets the Doctor and Rose in WWII London in the first place...

 

[Starkers]

Someone (I think it was Starkers) suggested awhile ago that we could see the story of Jack's two missing years from a different perspective and yet still have relevance to Jack (and The Doctor). I believe his idea was that The Eleventh Doctor would run into Jack while he was still a Time Agent prior to "The Empty Child" and, for whatever reason during the course of their encounter, The Eleventh Doctor decides to wipe two years of Jack's memories. I thought that was a pretty cool idea.

Yeah that was me, ta for remembering

 

[Plecostomus]

I want to see Jack in the middle of a bug hunt through the highs and lows of Eurodisney as he explains how the Disney Corporation is a front for the illuminati who bank rolled the Nazi, the master and most of the most noxious boybands on the scene in the last 15 years and continuing to profess the loomy threat that will someday threaten humanity when the colony of Disney planet sues for independence and...

The show deals with fiction not reality.

 

[Bacl]

Someone (I think it was Starkers) suggested awhile ago that we could see the story of Jack's two missing years from a different perspective and yet still have relevance to Jack (and The Doctor). I believe his idea was that The Eleventh Doctor would run into Jack while he was still a Time Agent prior to "The Empty Child" and, for whatever reason during the course of their encounter, The Eleventh Doctor decides to wipe two years of Jack's memories. I thought that was a pretty cool idea.

That is a pretty cool idea.

Time Agent Jack also might be a hell of an opposing force for the Doctor. He could have been a lot like Hart. He could have been an effective killer.

Or, Time Agent Jack was more idealistic, good-hearted, and light. The missing two years and a life as a professional time-con-man may have been part of what hardened him, and if that all happened because he felt the agency stole two years of his life...

Also, keep in mind we have NO IDEA what the Time Agency really was. What was their mission? Purpose? Were they good, or bad?

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Someone (I think it was Starkers) suggested awhile ago that we could see the story of Jack's two missing years from a different perspective and yet still have relevance to Jack (and The Doctor). I believe his idea was that The Eleventh Doctor would run into Jack while he was still a Time Agent prior to "The Empty Child" and, for whatever reason during the course of their encounter, The Eleventh Doctor decides to wipe two years of Jack's memories. I thought that was a pretty cool idea.

Yeah that was me, ta for remembering

Excellent! I'm glad my memory hasn't failed me completely. Yet.

 

[IcecreamLtDan]

Has he? Ok so Jack spent about a 1000 years buried alive which might not really count as living, but still technically JAck's older isn't he?

yes if you include the years spent buried alive, or frozen in the Torchwood vault he is older than the Doctor.

I was always under the impression that when Jack died, he was dead, at least until the circumstances that caused his death changed. In other words, when he was buried alive, he was actually dead until such time as he was unburied and able to breath again. Just like in CoE when he was encased in cement, he was dead until they got him out of it. If that's the case, then while he may be older in sheer years, his actually up and awake age is probably a lot less. Of course, I could be just filling my head with crazy info again, which happens quite often actually.

 

[jamestyler]

I think the opposite, that being buried alive would trigger a series of dying, then coming back to life only to die again without oxygen. Prolonging the suffering.

 

[wamdue]

I think Grey said that he would die over & over again, but you can not really count the frozen years

 

[HappyDayRiot]

You also can't believe a word that mannequin Grey said. Best part of Children of Earth was knowing the explosion almost certainly got rid of him. Terrible, terrible villain.