Holoprograms in the Public Domain.

[Guy Gardener]

I was watching the the first episode of season 7 DS9, when O'Brien and Worf were getting tanked talking about the old days on the Enterprise. They guffawed about Barclay as if he wasn't the center of the universe, and they hackled about his Three Musketeers program from Hollow Pursuits as if they were there. Now I haven't seen this episodes since I sold the VHS tape to buy food, but I don't quite remember these two being in the scene where Denana, Geordi and Riker began their intervention... but they talked later on in DS9 as if they had seen the program before Barclay erased all his "Special" programs at the end of the episode.

Is it possible that someone recovered Barclay's work? And the Three Musketeers Program was used widely about the ship? Did reg know that he was a popular author?

If people's private holograms can be lifted like this so easily, considering all the people that just use the holodeck for sex, is it all intellectual theft or public domain?

 

[Trekker4747]

It's just as likely people talked about Barclay's holoprograms (most notably LaForge and Riker and possibly Barc himself) and that is how they knew.

I also suspect that the Three Musketeers (being a popular piece of literature) has programs beyond Reg's.

 

[GreenBlood]

Well, if a society is evolved enough to even have holograms, they probably have some seriously ingenious hacker people who are more than capable at 'hack'n a holo'.

(hack'n a holo - sounds like someone with a serious coughing ailment)

 

[Guy Gardener]

I had another crazy idea about how it all got out... Riker sued for defamation? He was pretty pissed.

Greenblood, they're on the flagship. Smartest people in the empire. Harshest rules and highest expectations too probably. Though remember when Barclay found Moriarty? Dude was just stuck in a cache file or a buffer. Not that Moriarty was deleted, but it's pretty common knowledge about in computers today that there are 100's of degree's of "deleting" that afterwhich recovery is more and more almost impossible.

 

[SeerSGB]

Guy Gardener said:
I had another crazy idea about how it all got out... Riker sued for defamation? He was pretty pissed.

Greenblood, they're on the flagship. Smartest people in the empire. Harshest rules and highest expectations too probably. Though remember when Barclay found Moriarty? Dude was just stuck in a cache file or a buffer. Not that Moriarty was deleted, but it's pretty common knowledge about in computers today that there are 100's of degree's of "deleting" that afterwhich recovery is more and more almost impossible.

Actually Moriarty as stored in a protected Archive file. Reg activated him to check out an strange diagnostic reading.

 

[Vic Sixx]

There's no lock on the holodeck door, anyone can walk in you anytime. That's always bothered me, without a way to lock the door, I doubt I'd ever use it.

 

[Guy Gardener]

No threeway with Marylin Munroe and Tony Curtis for you then.

Though I suppose there's nothing to stop you setting up some holo emitters in you room.

 

[Tactical Drone]

Vic Sixx said:
There's no lock on the holodeck door, anyone can walk in you anytime. That's always bothered me, without a way to lock the door, I doubt I'd ever use it.

I think there is, but most people expect not to have someone walk in on them, but I think there is a way to ask the computer to lock the doors. There has to be.

 

[Trekker4747]

Tactical Drone said:

Vic Sixx said:
There's no lock on the holodeck door, anyone can walk in you anytime. That's always bothered me, without a way to lock the door, I doubt I'd ever use it.

I think there is, but most people expect not to have someone walk in on them, but I think there is a way to ask the computer to lock the doors. There has to be.

It would make pretty good sense for there to be locks on the doors (or at least being able to tell the computer to lock it as we've also seen done.) But Riker, as Executive Officer, surely would've been able to disable/get through that. So it wouldn't have stopped them.

It's odd that Troi, a counselor, would've condoned barging into someone else's fantasies especialy considering they didn't know what Barc was doing in there.

As Picard said in "The Neutral Zone" they don't have locks or "executive keys" for things because "in the future we are all more than capable of controling ourselves" which is a reasonable, and ideal, way of looking of things.

Riker was pissed and was just acting like an asshole. Infact he was doing that for most of the episode maybe he was on the rag or something.

 

[Who_Trek]

Maybe you could put a holographic locked door (or series of them) just beyond the real door. Granted if would't stop anyone from saying "computer end program" and landing you in the the middle of a large black room starkers and very surprised, but it might deter the uninvited guest.

 

[Timo]

With regards to O'Brien and Worf knowing about Barclay's holoprograms, I have no trouble believing that they were the talk of the ship at the time. After all, none of the people who barged in on him were shining examples of social discretion.

LaForge would boost his faltering ego with a story or two the first chance he got; Troi has never been able to keep a secret, and often mouths off at the bridge without concern to crew morale; and Riker acts petty and vindictive whenever his ego has been bruised.

As for the ability to barge in... Perhaps it's a Starfleet thing? Quark's programs are indeed lockable and usually locked, as pointed out in the very first holoadventure there, "A Man Alone". But Starfleet could well have a regulation or two against privacy, just like today's militaries often go for doorless toilet stalls.

Yet it could be a general social control, too. Quark would encourage the use of locks because his customers would go for the forbidden fruit in their holofantasies. But Federation attitudes of the 24th century might oppose the "sinfully good" approach to recreation - so there could be a general social more of keeping the program open for everybody, so that the user would be discouraged from raping baby hamsters all the time. (Of course, some users would get a kick out of the risk of exposure, too - and Barclay might well have been one of those, considering his reactions in "Hollow Pursuits".)

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Trekker4747]

As for the ability to barge in... Perhaps it's a Starfleet thing? Quark's programs are indeed lockable and usually locked, as pointed out in the very first holoadventure there, "A Man Alone". But Starfleet could well have a regulation or two against privacy, just like today's militaries often go for doorless toilet stalls.

But at the same time you can lock your cabin door on a Starfleet ship. So their social/privacy practices of TODAY's miliatry dosen't necessairly translate to Starfleet.

I suspect you could, if you wanted, "lock" the holodeck door. But at the same time it is also probably expected people won't just walk right in as Riker et al. did.

And, once again, even if it were locked Riker still could've gotten them in.

I've no good idea why Worf and O'Brien would know about it, unless Worf (being chief of security and a bridge officer) read it an evaluation of Barclay and O'Brien was told by Barclay himself when they became friends.

I really doubt Troi would've blabbed it to anyone but "need to know" people as I'm sure professional courtsey still exsists.

 

[Guy Gardener]

We might assume that prudishness was all vogue, but really, who would blush about much anything?

 

[Timo]

But at the same time you can lock your cabin door on a Starfleet ship.

Can you? Sure, our heroes politely ring the doorbell and wait for verbal permission before entering, even when the occupant is grossly outranked by them. But when did we see somebody from the crew (and not a visiting dignitary) lock his or her door - without this being an aberration and an immediate cause for alarm and override?

I really doubt Troi would've blabbed it to anyone

She's incorrigible. In "The Loss", she discusses the personal problems of Ensign Brooks with the Captain when there is absolutely no need to name names, or even tell the particular story anonymously. In "Chain of Command", she announces to the bridge crew that the new skipper is unsure of himself. And of course she gossips like anybody with her female friends on anything that doesn't involve doctor-patient confidentiality. Barclay's holoprograms would not.

Of course, Barclay may have come clean of his holoprograms himself, whether his audience wanted to hear about them or not. After all, he's supposed to be a recovering addict.

Timo Saloniemi