Picard Season 3.
Holo-Tuvix
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Picard Season 3.
Refutes your theory too.
Refutes your theory too.
A guard dog that sat in the Dark looking at a wall, until needed?
They stuck a spoon in there and dug out every ounce of free will that that old frakk had.
He only did what he was told, and didn't question a second of it.
How I see it, a fresh out of the box hologram with factory settings cannot pass a Turing test, because slavery is wrong.
Kes thought that a fresh out of the box hologram with factory settings could pass a Turing test, or at least a Turing test that she administers, and grades. Pretty girl, but there's nothing but porridge between her ears in season one.
"Sigh"
By season 7 a lot of weird shit had happened to the Doctor, and he had been running continuously for 10 years, so he was nowhere near factory settings and I concede that he was probably "sentient".
So the only question is: When between Endgame and Caretaker, what exact moment did the Doctor stop being a program, and start being alive?
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He showed up in PIC S3. It may have been a different holographic program, but it shows they didn't forget him, and that he wasn't something they swept under the rug.
Anyone standing next to the secret corpse of James T Kirk, is most assuredly under a rug, and was most probably swept there.
Ah yeah, I definitely forgot about that. Guess I owe Oddish 10 quatloos.
I'd say "Projections," when he first begins to seriously contemplate the nature of his own existence.
If not then, then "Tattoo," in which he develops empathy for his patients.
Another milestone is "Resolutions," when he starts actively modifying his own programming, or as we might call it, "learning," things and abilities he decides he wants, outside of what he was designed to do.
Nice catch on "Blink of an Eye".
So if I write a Wild West story in which a character has the name "Riker", then it's "almost Star Trek"?
It was a bad guy called "Kirk from Missouri in a Western comic magazine I read once.
So if I write a Wild West story in which a character has the name "Riker", then it's "almost Star Trek"?
It was a bad guy called "Kirk from Missouri in a Western comic magazine I read once.
The hero of Red Dwarf is also his own father, so it's almost like Futurama too.
This...
The Data Show.
Data in search of his humanity was a cornerstone of local theatre on Picard's Enterprise, and Barclay mass produced a cheap copy of that expertence to stop thousands of Star fleet officers from going space crazy.
Every fun game the Doctor played with his nurse, like making a family or becoming sick, he did again and again with other crewmen, just like Pac-Man respawning after the ghosts get him, which was off screen and we did not see.
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Oh dear!
Maybe it was good that I never watched it. It never showed up on my distant shore of the Universe.
Oh dear!
Maybe it was good that I never watched it. It never showed up on my distant shore of the Universe.
We all live on the same shore now.
But you missed the boat.
Tuvix didn't want to die. Duplicating him with a transporter or hologram probably wouldn't change that. He said he thought of Tuvok and Neelix as his "parents;" he would likely think of a holo-duplicate as a sibling, at most.
So they digitized Doctor Denara Pel's consciousness, copied it, fed it into a hologram, then two days later, took the new life experiences from the holo-copy, and fed them back into soft meaty brain seamlessly?
With this technology, Tuvix could have easily brain washed the crew to think that he had always been there and completely belonged on the ship, trusted an loved.
In fact we have no idea who is really supposed to be there, and who is a pirate who rewrote the brains of every one else to think that they are Starfleet?
Brainwashing the marquis into perfect Starfleet soldiers would have been piss easy, but Janeway would have had to brainwash her own crew too, who may have gotten pissy about civil liberties being abused by a godless tyrant.
This is a game changer for Federation society as a whole. Therefore it must be forgotten about and never mentioned again after this episode.
Like that whole "infinite lifespan" thing they discovered in "Rascals".
Exactly. 
There have been many instances of potential society altering things occurring with the various crews that are dealt with once and never again. The lore of Star Trek has gotten so vast I'd imagine as a writer it's a pain trying to keep it all straight. Probably why they insist on doing prequels and alt-universes so much.
There have been many instances of potential society altering things occurring with the various crews that are dealt with once and never again. The lore of Star Trek has gotten so vast I'd imagine as a writer it's a pain trying to keep it all straight. Probably why they insist on doing prequels and alt-universes so much.
