Hey, I never noticed that before....

[Maurice]

Films are not shot in sequence which leads to continuity problems, obviously. They probably shot most of the dialog, and only them went went back and did any pyro/stunt work on the bridge on or near the last shooting day on that set so they wouldn't have to delay shooting whilst repairing any resulting damage.

 

[locutus101]

When I started watching the series, I saw episodes in random orders and I thought there was something weird about some of them. It took me some time to realize that they wore different uniforms... I am not very observant...

 

[shapeshifter]

I have my needs

Including a course in not sexually objectifying people.

 

[Poltargyst]

There is nothing wrong with finding someone attractive. And sexuality is a core part of Trek or why else are crewwomen wearing miniskirts and Kirk is the only one to get his jersey ripped open to reveal his manly shoulders?

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

There is nothing wrong with finding someone attractive. And sexuality is a core part of Trek or why else are crewwomen wearing miniskirts and Kirk is the only one to get his jersey ripped open to reveal his manly shoulders?

Or Khan

Or that woman on the Shore Leave planet

 

[johnnybear]

Or Lt.Marlena Moreau or Yeoman Rand or Vanna or Sirah or Lt. McGivers or.....
JB

 

[Myko]

This thread took an uncomfortable and embarrassing turn, please stop.

 

[FormerLurker]

I'm amazed that with the number of people on this forum that actually know better, we still let people characterize the miniskirts as sexually exploitative and meant to "put women in their place". That's not what miniskirts represented in the sixties, and therefore that's not what they represented on Star Trek.

And besides, most of the skirts were midi length (just above the knee) anyway. Only those actresses, like Nichelle Nichols, that wanted the shorter skirts got them.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

And besides, most of the skirts were midi length (just above the knee) anyway. Only those actresses, like Nichelle Nichols, that wanted the shorter skirts got them.

And in fact, Grace Lee Whitney, who was originally intended as the female lead of TOS, the Miss Kitty to Kirk's Marshall Dillon, was the person who recommended that they switch to the skirts. Here's what she had to say on the subject in Allan Asherman's Star Trek Interview Book:

GLW: I was in pants. I rebelled, because to me it should have been a big belt with a short skirt, boots, and long legs. That's what I saw. And when I said that to Bill Theiss, he had the same image. Bill designed the shorts with the skirt flap over the top: the famous uniform.

Asherman: Whose idea were the pants?

GLW: I don't know. They were in the pilots, before I got there. When we put the legs into the format I think that helped sell the series.

Asherman: What do you think of the costume you wore in the series?

GLW: I thought it was sensational. It stopped traffic, and being an egocentric actress, the more attention I got, the better.

 

[Botany Bay]

The Lights of Zetar :

In the briefing room scene the Captain has a large pimple to the left of his nose.

There was a youtube clip being circulated a few years back of a command division crewman sealing off one of those fire hydrant looking things on the wall of the corridor in an attempt to seal everything shut and keep the storm out. We were all having a laugh because he apparently was empty handed pretending to screw the thing shut. Only thing is...he does have something in his hands! It's plastic or glass, but he's holding something to help him batten down the hatches.

In the final sickbay scene check out the door behind Bones. A rare bit of sloppiness as someone's just dumped what looks like a bunch of painters' sheets on the floor.

 

[Botany Bay]

The Way to Eden :

In the wide shot of Rad's station in Auxiliary Control, look at the floor on the left hand side. A power cord trails across the floor from the station to a power point presumably off screen somewhere.

To the left of the door of the Galileo II, there's a red button that has "PUSH" written on it. Kirk does...and the doors open.

 

[GSchnitzer]

There was a youtube clip being circulated a few years back of a command division crewman sealing off one of those fire hydrant looking things on the wall of the corridor in an attempt to seal everything shut and keep the storm out. We were all having a laugh because he apparently was empty handed pretending to screw the thing shut. Only thing is...he does have something in his hands! It's plastic or glass, but he's holding something to help him batten down the hatches.

More about that tool seen in "The Lights of Zetar" is here:

https://m.facebook.com/notes/star-t...-some-odd-micrometer-thing/10150337700670934/

 

[Warped9]

And in fact, Grace Lee Whitney, who was originally intended as the female lead of TOS, the Miss Kitty to Kirk's Marshall Dillon, was the person who recommended that they switch to the skirts. Here's what she had to say on the subject in Allan Asherman's Star Trek Interview Book:

GLW: I was in pants. I rebelled, because to me it should have been a big belt with a short skirt, boots, and long legs. That's what I saw. And when I said that to Bill Theiss, he had the same image. Bill designed the shorts with the skirt flap over the top: the famous uniform.

Asherman: Whose idea were the pants?

GLW: I don't know. They were in the pilots, before I got there. When we put the legs into the format I think that helped sell the series.

Asherman: What do you think of the costume you wore in the series?

GLW: I thought it was sensational. It stopped traffic, and being an egocentric actress, the more attention I got, the better.

So she rebelled and she also admits she was being ego-centric. It didn't occur to her there was a reason for fmale crewman wearing pants: that it partly telegraphed the women were supposed to be on equal footing with men in professional terms. It also made more sense when it came to landing party duty.

I could accept it as an alternate service wear aboard ship or on starbase/station duty, but not for landing party duty on an unfamiliar planet.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

So she rebelled and she also admits she was being ego-centric. It didn't occur to her there was a reason for fmale crewman wearing pants: that it partly telegraphed the women were supposed to be on equal footing with men in professional terms. It also made more sense when it came to landing party duty.

I could accept it as an alternate service wear aboard ship or on starbase/station duty, but not for landing party duty on an unfamiliar planet.

Sex appeal and potential ratings trump story logic.

 

[Drone]

I'm amazed that with the number of people on this forum that actually know better, we still let people characterize the miniskirts as sexually exploitative and meant to "put women in their place". That's not what miniskirts represented in the sixties, and therefore that's not what they represented on Star Trek.

And besides, most of the skirts were midi length (just above the knee) anyway. Only those actresses, like Nichelle Nichols, that wanted the shorter skirts got them.

I guess that one could take the tack that because the audience might have been meant to assume that the thinking behind sexually objectifying individuals is probably no longer extant, the primary reason that uniforms were designed as they were (in this instance for women) was due to input from a representative survey of female Starfleet personnel on what would feel comfortable and functional for their workaday use. That would seem to be a reasonable criteria, in-universe, for this type of determination, one that plausibly would also change over time.

 

[FormerLurker]

Which would explain why the skant that Uhura wears in SFS and TFF is longer, and more utilitarian. And why such skants were still in use in 2364 when the Enterprise D first made landfall at Farpoint, but soon went the way of the dodo.

 

[PCz911]

More about that tool seen in "The Lights of Zetar" is here:

https://m.facebook.com/notes/star-t...-some-odd-micrometer-thing/10150337700670934/

Your prop research is just amazing.

 

[publiusr]

I'd love to see the folks in TOS given a bigger budget--to really play.

 

[Drusilla's valet]

Including a course in not sexually objectifying people.

Stated from an Olympian perch?

Save it.

We like a non-PC 50 year-old television show. It was written in an era where people seemed a little more clear on some things and a little less clear on others.

If some men treated women improperly, I get it. On the flip side I see a lot of women treat men horribly and take advantage of a biased and flawed legal system, from time to time.

It takes nothing away from anything. I liked Yeomen Rand first, as a boy, for her looks. As I got older, I realized what a warm, thoughtful and talented woman she was through a decidedly hard life that many would see as initially quite successful.

Now where is Barbara Babcock? Beauty and talent....talent and beauty.

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

Only just noticed this after 20 odd years of watching the movie... When the Enterprise-A is being attacked by Chang's modified Bird of Prey, one of the torpedo hits comes from Aft Port and hits the saucer Port Forward. When the thing hits, you can see the deflector flicker badly