I thought in that shot Doohan curled his hand around the controls to hide the missing finger?Yeah that's the stock clip of "Scotty" from The Enemy Within; pretty sure it was Eddie Paskey's hands because Doohan had the missing finger, but either way it wasn't Doohan.
I'm pretty darned sure I read there was a stand in but looking at that episode frame by frame you're right. He did curl for that shot.I thought in that shot Doohan curled his hand around the controls to hide the missing finger?
I'm pretty darned sure I read there was a stand in but looking at that episode frame by frame you're right. He did curl for that shot.
There's another I'm thinking of later in the episode which uses TEW's clip and another angle that looks like the stand in.
But I may be wrong about that too, so...
Right. It's a second shot in The Tholian Web I am pretty sure is a stand in.The Enemy Within:
https://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x05hd/theenemywithinhd050.jpg
I'm gonna say that's Jimmy.![]()
The unidentified item which is being discussed on the previous page. (My chiming in as to what it could be...)Where?
Could they have been two different takes with the same camera setup?I tried to match TEW and TTW and they are not the same clips - the hands have a raised knuckle in one which not present in the other.
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Plus the lights on the console are different.
Looks that way. Both shots have the same person operating the transporter.Could they have been two different takes with the same camera setup?
I tried to match TEW and TTW and they are not the same clips - the hands have a raised knuckle in one which not present in the other.
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Plus the lights on the console are different.
The stills are from when Scott moves his left arm to the sliders and one frame before he starts to move both hands downwards. Unless he repeats the same manoeuvre twice, I'm not sure how they can be part of the same piece of stock footage.Those are two different moments from the exact same piece of stock footage. The lights are different because they are blinking on and off to create different display patterns.
The director of The Corbormite Manoeuvre shot several stock scenes in order to make it easier for other episodes, perhaps Scott's hands were on that list?Could they have been two different takes with the same camera setup?
The stills are from when Scott moves his left arm to the sliders and one frame before he starts to move both hands downwards. Unless he repeats the same manoeuvre twice, I'm not sure how they can be part of the same piece of stock footage.
Oh, I entirely agree that all the close-ups of Scott's hands were shot at the same time, I just meant that the extracts seen in TEW and TTW were not identical - that they were different manoeuvres, albeit ones which were part of the same stock footage reel.Come on, man. You've got to be kidding me.Look at the creases on the left sleeve. Look at the positioning of his right hand, and its shadow, indicating that the actor, the camera, and the lamps are positioned precisely the same in both views. It is the same shot in your (very nice) side-by-side. It's not from two different days, or even two different hours.
When they are purposely creating stock footage, which this was, they don't film one quick glimpse and move on. That would waste the time it took to set up the shot. They'd have the actor work the sliders a bit, back and forth, push some buttons and so on, to give future episode editors some choices to work with. That's what you're seeing.
We also know it really is Jimmy's hands, as evidenced by the missing right middle finger:
https://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x05hd/theenemywithinhd050.jpg
Could this be your mystery man?Yeah that's the stock clip of "Scotty" from The Enemy Within; pretty sure it was Eddie Paskey's hands because Doohan had the missing finger, but either way it wasn't Doohan.
Update to my previous post - the footage from The Man Trap wasn't Doohan after all! Or at least wasn't wearing Scotty's uniform, so is different from the other stock footage.
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It's from around 20 minutes in, when Kirk is beaming back to the ship.
Could this be your mystery man?
Overall, I'm surprised at how few times the Scotty hand footage was used in Season One. Perhaps it will show up more in Season Two!![]()
The uniform of the hand footage matches the actor who stood next to the console in this scene, so presumably it was shot at the same timelooks like he had trouble with the sliders… perhaps that’s why it was re shot?
The uniform of the hand footage matches the actor who stood next to the console in this scene, so presumably it was shot at the same time
https://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x01-2-hd/themantraphd303.jpg
https://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x01-2-hd/themantraphd306.jpg
So we know they filmed transporter stock footage more than once. They got Jimmy with his Lt. commander stripes, and this other performer with no stripes. But even so, I could swear I've seen an episode, don't know which, where a no-stripe red shirt is at the controls, and they used the wrong stock footage (Jimmy with stripes) for the hand close-up insert.
True dat! Gene Coon was amazing, and his leaving the show was the biggest loss to Star Trek, IMO.May be old news on this thread, but I was fascinated to read that Janos Prohaska, who created the Horta costume, showed it to Gene Coon, and when he asked what it was Prohaska said "It can be whatever you want." Apparently Coon replied "I'll write a script around it" and wrote this episode in 4 days. The man was pure genius.
It's because thinking about that episode reminds him of how Nimoy and the others helped him through an extremely difficult time. That's the sort of thing that cements a friendship for life.And one thing that always puzzled me is why Shatner claims this as his favorite episode, when his father died. Nimoy and others helped him through, but still it seems strange.
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