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Hey, everyone! DRG's DS9 novel after Sacraments is called ASCENDANCE!

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The same goes for the fan-fic tangent to this thread. Back to discussing the novel please :)
 
Re: Hey, everyone! DRG's DS9 novel after Sacraments is called ASCENDA

The same goes for the fan-fic tangent to this thread. Back to discussing the novel please :)

I'll think you find that that seems to have died a death. But will do. :)
 
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Re: Hey, everyone! DRG's DS9 novel after Sacraments is called ASCENDA

There were two major plots unresolved after soul key, the ascendents, and the sisko kidnap thing. I wonder if the latter will be covered.

After Kira left, did Vaughan become DS9 commander?

It will be nice to see Morn again too.
 
Re: Hey, everyone! DRG's DS9 novel after Sacraments is called ASCENDA

There were two major plots unresolved after soul key, the ascendents, and the sisko kidnap thing. I wonder if the latter will be covered.

After Kira left, did Vaughan become DS9 commander?

It will be nice to see Morn again too.


There was also the Borg incursion. And Ro Laren became Captain. But you´re right, of course. The kidnap thing was mentioned in the Typhon Pact novels. Rebecca Sisko had oviously no easy childhood, like Miral Paris. I don´t know if people want to read about another child kidnapping, but I guess Kasidy went through hell.....
 
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..After Kira left, did Vaughan become DS9 commander?

I think it was mentioned in one of the Typhon Pact books (I believe DRG3's Rough Beasts of Empire), that Vaughn took over for Kira, and Ro took over for Vaughn when he took over command of the James T. Kirk.
 
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..After Kira left, did Vaughan become DS9 commander?

I think it was mentioned in one of the Typhon Pact books (I believe DRG3's Rough Beasts of Empire), that Vaughan took over for Kira, and Ro took over for Vaughan when he took over command of the James T. Kirk.

Vaughn.

Sorry, I don't mean to be patronizing.
 
Re: Hey, everyone! DRG's DS9 novel after Sacraments is called ASCENDA

I refrained from red-flagging that typo (Vaughan instead of Vaughn). I had my fill of typos lately.
 
Re: Hey, everyone! DRG's DS9 novel after Sacraments is called ASCENDA

Mod note - typos happen to everyone (even in the spelling of Khan, Kilana :p) so just leave them be, no need to correct them.
 
Re: Hey, everyone! DRG's DS9 novel after Sacraments is called ASCENDA

There were two major plots unresolved after soul key, the ascendents, and the sisko kidnap thing. I wonder if the latter will be covered.

Rebecca's kidnap was only established in the post-gap novels, as something else that had happened in the meantime in addition to the Ascendant conflict. So it's not really accurate to say it was left dangling after The Soul Key - we didn't know about it at the time.

But given that DRG3 was the one who retro-established it, I'm sure he has some ideas in mind and we'll get something about it eventually.

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Re: Hey, everyone! DRG's DS9 novel after Sacraments is called ASCENDA

Personally I was never all that interested in the kidnapping, as, without having the details, I'm worried it will come off as a somewhat generic plot (though I'd be happy to be proven wrong).

The Ascendants, OTOH, seemed to be a huge brewing plot that just got thrown under the bus when the series jumped forward, and I'm very much looking foward to finding out what happened there.
 
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^I feel the same way. The kidnapping added a nice feel of time passing when it was referenced, but it's not something that I'm dying to read about, while the Ascendants storyline is.
Most of the stories these days don't seem to take place entirely in a series' past, other than TOS which doesn't really have a set present, so I wouldn't be surprised if there were some scenes set in DS9's present.
 
Re: Hey, everyone! DRG's DS9 novel after Sacraments is called ASCENDA

Personally, given that the kidnapper was said to be an Ohalu extremist and zealot, I really want to know more.

Also, Vedek Yevir disappeared from the novels and didn't get elected Kai. I'd like to know more, given that he was in a lot of the original run of DS9-R.
 
Re: Hey, everyone! DRG's DS9 novel after Sacraments is called ASCENDA

Personally, given that the kidnapper was said to be an Ohalu extremist and zealot, I really want to know more.

Also, Vedek Yevir disappeared from the novels and didn't get elected Kai. I'd like to know more, given that he was in a lot of the original run of DS9-R.

Given that the Kai is a VIP I´d like to know more about the current Kai.

And about the kidnapping. We know that Rebecca is alright, but not exactly what happened during the kidnapping.
 
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Who was awesome, but vanished after Kas and Rebecca moved to the ship.

DS9 is a bit thin post destiny. I'M reading the Missing at the moment, I don't recall seeing O'Brien, Nog, Desca, Prynn, and presumably there's other characters I don't even remember. Not to mention Jake, the religious situation on Bashir (the first federation religious world I believe), and I still don't recall of the wormhole is open or not after the events of typos pact. DS9 probably suffers more from this than TNG because of the series' large supporting cast, and the in depth post relaunch novels that suddenly stopped.

Something caused Kira and Dax to leave. Something caused Vaughn to leave, the kidnapping was presumably related to the whole Avatar thing, has that settled down?
 
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the religious situation on Bashir (the first federation religious world I believe)

I guess you meant Bajor, not Bashir... ;) But there are certainly other Federation worlds that have been established as having religions. Earth's major religions are still known to be alive and well, at least among some segments of the population; we've seen novelverse characters who were Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindi, and so on. "Yesteryear" established that Vulcans have shrines to their gods. Andorians in the novels worship Uzaveh the Infinite; Tellarites look to Kera and Phinda. I'm sure there are more.

As for a "religious world," I'm not sure if that's supposed to mean just a world that has a religion, which most do, or one that's governed by its religious order. But the latter definitely does not apply to Bajor, since the Vedek Assembly is not a government body. When Kai Winn became First Minister in "Shakaar," it was seen as an extraordinary and questionable event, and was undone within weeks.
 
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I had a discussion about religion and religious characters in Trek with a friend of mine who is Jewish Orthodox...he was actually disheartened by some of the new borderline token characters, as he always felt that the federation era earth had moved beyond overt displays of relgious belief towards something more personal to the individuals. I am inclined to agree with him to an extent.
McCoy is an early example of a quasi religious trek character (very southern baptist) and sulu is shown in the novels...star trek vi, just before the praxis wave hits...practicing buddhist meditation.
Then we have characters like Chakotay, whose facial tattoo is more overt, and even Ro with her secularised wearing of her Bajoran earring.
However, I do suspect things like burkhas, hijabs, large uniform adjustments....possibly even full turbans for sikh characters would indeed feel out of place on the bridge.

Religion seems to be something our heroes, of varying faiths, tend to leave in their quarters a la Spock or Worf.

I would never agree, however, with the militant/radical atheist view of Trek being an atheist text.

Things like Q and the prophets automatically make that a false assumption, and the recent Q son of Q stuff over in Voyager fit nicely into that nicely vague area Trek has carved out as opposed to say Babylon 5.

In terms of this new book however.....yes olease. I hate the broken narrative we currently have, and the sooner its back on track, the better.

And some dark corner of my fan heart secretly wishes they ditch the new station and bring the old back with a prophets switcheroo. They wont. So more than one line if dialogue from Miles will be a start, and maybe find out what he thinks about all Bashir went through, maybe explain why he wasnt more involved.
 
Re: Hey, everyone! DRG's DS9 novel after Sacraments is called ASCENDA

I would never agree, however, with the militant/radical atheist view of Trek being an atheist text.

Things like Q and the prophets automatically make that a false assumption

While I agree that Trek isn't an atheist text, I don't see how this follows. Even if the Q are definitively literally omnipotent, that still doesn't necessarily make them deities. And the only word we have to go on about that are the Q themselves. We've never really seen them do anything that sufficiently advanced technology within the Trek universe couldn't also achieve. You could see them as gods, but you aren't forced to; seeing them as not is still a consistent viewpoint.

As for the Prophets, there's tons of stuff in both aired and novel Trek discussing how considering them as gods and considering them as aliens aren't mutually exclusive, or even incompatible, views, and the latter is equally as acceptable as the former.

Unless that's what you mean; that there are valid readings that support both a theist and an atheist viewpoint when it comes to the existence or nonexistence of deities within the setting, and so it therefore can't be a strictly atheist text?
 
Re: Hey, everyone! DRG's DS9 novel after Sacraments is called ASCENDA

That would indeed pretty much be my point.

Its a text that is comfortable in either camp because of the vagueness. Once the mouth frothing extremes of either side claim it, or it itself drifts too much to either direction, it loses something.

Also...the Q vs Omega continuum stuff is even more religious than a bunch of vedeks high on mappa bread and spring wine.

And yet it fits.
 
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