And the winner is... TheSeeker. Hiro gets his powers back through Ando. That must be what will happen.
Heroes 3x15 "Trust and Blood" Discuss and Grade
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And the winner is... TheSeeker. Hiro gets his powers back through Ando. That must be what will happen.
Phew, finally catching up here...
I'll give it an Above Average. It feels like in general, people are coming back around to their old selves. Mo isn't a loon, Peter isn't too stupid (and his powers have been inhibited enough that hopefully the stupidity won't make a resurgence), Matt, well, he was never that much of a problem. Nathan is hopefully Up To Something(TM) and hasn't undergone a bizarre and unexplained personality change, tho there better be a good reason Why He Can't Tell Anyone About It(TM).
Hiro still feels to me like an infantile and useless character. People's freedom and lives are at risk, and all he cares about is finding a sword so he can play samurai again. Bleh.
But on the upside, it feels right and natural that these people have established some loyalty towards each other, and that's why Hiro didn't just scram when given the chance. That's good development for this show - till now, there have been only a few bonds that keep these characters loyal to each other; they need to be bound together by a larger network of shared danger so the writers don't continue to have to struggle to find excuses to keep them on screen together.
Sylar: always fun to see him being eeeevil, but I hope this dull Luke kid doesn't last long as his sidekick and DOES NOT turn out to be his half-brother or any BS like that. Unless Sylar kills him and only then discovers his true identity but even that would be a cliche.
Nice to see that Matt remembers he has a trump power of being able to control people's minds. And good demonstration of how deadly Matt can be if provoked.
Lastly, Peter looked very cute in his SWAT uniform.
That's the right idea, writers. What's next? Firefighter would be nice. Or can we get him in the navy...?
Nathan's story is both sensible and a misfire. I think Kring was intending to go there with Nathan from S1 - remember his "buring them at the stake" speech to Simone? But for it to work, there needed to be some bigger-than-anything-that-came-before traumatic event to propel Nathan to radical action, at the end of the last volume. Something on par with half of NYC being blown up after all.
We've been seeing ample evidence that Nathan is right to say that "even good people can't control these powers," but the dramatic ramp-up wasn't there so it feels wrong. Just another example of how the execution of Heroes is being bungled lately, even if all the right elements are at hand.
Nathan knows they're all headed for burning-at-the-stake land and he's trying to avert that situation. That would be a reasonable explanation that would be consistent with Nathan's character and how he approaches things. Nathan and Noah are re-creating the job the Company was trying to do, but using the resources of the Federal government to do it - and Nathan has taken personal control, to keep it from going off the rails (which makes me wonder how he has time to be a Senator, but oh well).
And they didn't let Peter in on it because he's a boneheaded bleeding heart type who would object to the high-handedness of it all? Plus Nathan still sees him as a stupid kid who should go back to playing paramedic and let the grownups handle the difficult problems. Yeah, I can just barely see that working, but I would have expected Nathan to have developed a tad more respect for Peter by this point.
But they better concentrate on getting Sylar into custody because he's a one-man wrecking crew.
Which means that Kring must be very very careful about who he kills, if he doesn't want to get the show cancelled.
That's Bryan Fuller, who did such a wonderful job with Pushing Daisies. Counting down the minutes...
I'll give it an Above Average. It feels like in general, people are coming back around to their old selves. Mo isn't a loon, Peter isn't too stupid (and his powers have been inhibited enough that hopefully the stupidity won't make a resurgence), Matt, well, he was never that much of a problem. Nathan is hopefully Up To Something(TM) and hasn't undergone a bizarre and unexplained personality change, tho there better be a good reason Why He Can't Tell Anyone About It(TM).
Hiro still feels to me like an infantile and useless character. People's freedom and lives are at risk, and all he cares about is finding a sword so he can play samurai again. Bleh.
But on the upside, it feels right and natural that these people have established some loyalty towards each other, and that's why Hiro didn't just scram when given the chance. That's good development for this show - till now, there have been only a few bonds that keep these characters loyal to each other; they need to be bound together by a larger network of shared danger so the writers don't continue to have to struggle to find excuses to keep them on screen together.
Sylar: always fun to see him being eeeevil, but I hope this dull Luke kid doesn't last long as his sidekick and DOES NOT turn out to be his half-brother or any BS like that. Unless Sylar kills him and only then discovers his true identity but even that would be a cliche.
Nice to see that Matt remembers he has a trump power of being able to control people's minds. And good demonstration of how deadly Matt can be if provoked.
Lastly, Peter looked very cute in his SWAT uniform.
That's the right idea, writers. What's next? Firefighter would be nice. Or can we get him in the navy...?So much so that I don't even believe it's a valid death. This show isn't very good at keeping people dead, but a 'real' death should, I dunno, have some confirming scene like Daphne being zipped up in a body bag? Discussion of what the authorities are going to tell her parents?
He definitely wanted Peter to escape, the way he got close enough for Peter to glom onto his flying powers.
Nathan's story is both sensible and a misfire. I think Kring was intending to go there with Nathan from S1 - remember his "buring them at the stake" speech to Simone? But for it to work, there needed to be some bigger-than-anything-that-came-before traumatic event to propel Nathan to radical action, at the end of the last volume. Something on par with half of NYC being blown up after all.
We've been seeing ample evidence that Nathan is right to say that "even good people can't control these powers," but the dramatic ramp-up wasn't there so it feels wrong. Just another example of how the execution of Heroes is being bungled lately, even if all the right elements are at hand.
I am hoping against hope that Noah and Nathan are in it together on some plan to assemble all the powered people together in some central area, sort through who the actual dangerous psychos are, imprison them, and come up with some plan for keeping everyone else safe and giving them back however much of their freedom as possible, while keeping society safe, the specials secret, and not just waiting for the whole thing to blow up in everyone's face and mass hysteria to break out, which would inevitably happen if nobody takes care of this problem now.
Nathan knows they're all headed for burning-at-the-stake land and he's trying to avert that situation. That would be a reasonable explanation that would be consistent with Nathan's character and how he approaches things. Nathan and Noah are re-creating the job the Company was trying to do, but using the resources of the Federal government to do it - and Nathan has taken personal control, to keep it from going off the rails (which makes me wonder how he has time to be a Senator, but oh well).
And they didn't let Peter in on it because he's a boneheaded bleeding heart type who would object to the high-handedness of it all? Plus Nathan still sees him as a stupid kid who should go back to playing paramedic and let the grownups handle the difficult problems. Yeah, I can just barely see that working, but I would have expected Nathan to have developed a tad more respect for Peter by this point.
But they better concentrate on getting Sylar into custody because he's a one-man wrecking crew.
The Lost producers should film a time-jump to thousands of years ago when the Heroes characters, covered with mud and wearing rags, are building the Four Toed Statue. Sawyer: "Son of a bitch!"Until I'd remembered that Hiro's powers had been stolen (How lame was that?), I was joking around that he was gonna teleport everybody back in time 100 years or so, where our heroes would discover that, in crash-landing their plane, they'd become the original inhabitants of the island on "Lost."
I'm looking forward to the inevitable scene where Peter has some power that's useless for either fighting or fleeing (like superhearing) and encounters Sylar. The only way to survive is to grab Sylar's power (assuming that the "rules" allow him to grab the TK at the same time - otherwise he's toast) and as a result, goes squirrely again.
If I were Kring, I'd operate on the assumption that anyone interested in a good show or good writing has long since bailed, and the people who still watch are doing so largely to see their favorite characters. Those are definitely Claire, Peter, Sylar and maybe still Hiro though how anyone could still stomach him is beyond me.
Which means that Kring must be very very careful about who he kills, if he doesn't want to get the show cancelled.
That's Bryan Fuller, who did such a wonderful job with Pushing Daisies. Counting down the minutes...
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well Im glad Im not the only one who finds this Luke kid tagging along with Sylar all that interesting. It seems everyone else likes it. I bet theyll run into Claire & he'll fall in love with her & then he has to choose b/w Claire & his new father figure Sylar...yawn.
oh & another thing, theyre being really lazy with the powers now...Id like to see some new abilities please...
I just want to see some clever use of existing powers. Peter is now in an interesting situation. If he is surrounded by various friends & foes with powers, he would need to quickly decide which power to glom onto, maybe changing quickly to keep his foes off-guard.
I don't see why he doesn't just grab Matt's powers now - mind-control is a tough power to beat (as long as you remember you have it! sometimes it seems Matt forgets). And Matt also has mind-reading and that silly precog ability (I agree with everyone else, it's past its usefulness) so Peter should get those, too, right?
Matt and Peter don't need to go into hiding. They just need to use their mind-control powers effectively, on the right people. My advice to them is to use mind-control and mind-reading to become very, very wealthy and start hiring their own private army. And buy their own Senators in Washington, to counteract Nathan. Money is the ultimate superpower.
But Matt and Peter are dopes, and they will continue to run around and hide in the woods or hole up in some flophouse, and sulk and argue and accomplish nothing.
I don't see why he doesn't just grab Matt's powers now - mind-control is a tough power to beat (as long as you remember you have it! sometimes it seems Matt forgets). And Matt also has mind-reading and that silly precog ability (I agree with everyone else, it's past its usefulness) so Peter should get those, too, right?
Matt and Peter don't need to go into hiding. They just need to use their mind-control powers effectively, on the right people. My advice to them is to use mind-control and mind-reading to become very, very wealthy and start hiring their own private army. And buy their own Senators in Washington, to counteract Nathan. Money is the ultimate superpower.
But Matt and Peter are dopes, and they will continue to run around and hide in the woods or hole up in some flophouse, and sulk and argue and accomplish nothing.
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