Heroes 3x14 "A Clear and Present Danger" Discuss and Grade
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Just watched it on the DVR. There was a nice atmosphere of foreboding. I am hopeful for the storyline, but the plane crash seems like a copout--doesn't let the Heroes find out what's really in store for them. No, they'll be running through the woods, in the dark and snow, trying to scape government flashlights. Or something.
Sylar's storyline has potential. Claire at least kicked a little ass, and so did Peter. That was nice. But they all really need to wise up and work together. It seems like that's why the Heroes always come so close to losing the day--the villains are just plain smarter! Come on.
I think this will be my last volume, too, if this kind of "quality" keeps up. Ironically, it looks even worse in comparison to BSG, which is having a hell of a good half-season right now.
Sylar's storyline has potential. Claire at least kicked a little ass, and so did Peter. That was nice. But they all really need to wise up and work together. It seems like that's why the Heroes always come so close to losing the day--the villains are just plain smarter! Come on.
I think this will be my last volume, too, if this kind of "quality" keeps up. Ironically, it looks even worse in comparison to BSG, which is having a hell of a good half-season right now.
haha Hiro has a hideout that gets raided 2 hours later
I liked it better than anything since the first season, though it still has some of the same flaws (stupid characters, no clear motivations). But there weren't any soap opera-ish twists--Syler's a Petrelli!--or traveling to the future. Sure, there was some drawing, but nothing to horrendous...yet.
I also liked the way it looked. The shots of Nathan in the hanger at the end were nicely comic-bookish. It reminded me of that shot of Sylar from the first season, where he's standing on top of the building playing with his radiation power.
I also liked the way it looked. The shots of Nathan in the hanger at the end were nicely comic-bookish. It reminded me of that shot of Sylar from the first season, where he's standing on top of the building playing with his radiation power.
Personally, I think A Clear And Present Danger is only the first step toward getting Heroes back on track after the pretzel-twist contortions the characters have been put through ever since Season 2! I could only rate it "Above Average" myself, but even if you didn't like this episode, just remember that there's a fair amount of damage control to be done on the writing front. It may be a while before Bryan Fuller's influence fully kicks in...
Very positive start to the volume though we can't really judge Heroes until Fuller gets to sink his teeth into at the end of this season to set up the plot for SEASON 4...
I like the whole idea of a secret agencey hunting them down though I loved how Sylar kicked there ass despite him being a villian again. Also I guess Sylar survived because the fire would of heated and melted the glass stuck in his head at the end of the previous volume.
Claire still bugs me, she still thinks she can help fight but shes too dumb to realisr her power is only defensive and she cannot really hurty anyone PLEASE WRITE HER OUT OF THE DAM SHOW. Also the show had one of its lapses when Claire and Matt didn't figure out the picture of the cracked glass and him being shot in the neck, how dumb and slow are the characters sometimes. The plane scene was awful how bad are the guards and since when has Claire been SOLID SNAKE and Peter can fly so who cares if he gets sucked out of the plane.
Anyway still a positive start and hopefully it will be better then the last volume, which was the first time I had problems with this show.
ps - Ando cycle rules
dam I love those two.
I like the whole idea of a secret agencey hunting them down though I loved how Sylar kicked there ass despite him being a villian again. Also I guess Sylar survived because the fire would of heated and melted the glass stuck in his head at the end of the previous volume.
Claire still bugs me, she still thinks she can help fight but shes too dumb to realisr her power is only defensive and she cannot really hurty anyone PLEASE WRITE HER OUT OF THE DAM SHOW. Also the show had one of its lapses when Claire and Matt didn't figure out the picture of the cracked glass and him being shot in the neck, how dumb and slow are the characters sometimes. The plane scene was awful how bad are the guards and since when has Claire been SOLID SNAKE and Peter can fly so who cares if he gets sucked out of the plane.
Anyway still a positive start and hopefully it will be better then the last volume, which was the first time I had problems with this show.
ps - Ando cycle rules
dam I love those two.This whole Guantanamo-esque stuff could become pretty anachronistic now that Bush is gone.
I just took it as the coming re-education camps.
So just how pressurized was that plane anyway? Just about everyone at work were rolling their eyes while we discussed this episode. It better shape up or else.
I've read that the writers are going to limit time travel for the rest of the season since it became such a mess in Villains. I really want the writers to ban time travel and drawing the future on this show from now on. They should have done that in season two if only to make it different from the first season.
Linderman shouts in a frenzy: "We have to go baaaack! Please! We have to go back!"
Oh wait, wrong franchise.
Time travel sucks on this show, especially since the writers themselves don't seem to know what they're doing, lacking any self-made rules about time travel and all.
The "paint the future" aspect was interesting in season one when Ando asked Hiro if they would've even been there to make the comic come true if they hadn't seen the comic and wanted to make it come true. Of course, nothing ever came of it again.
The "paint the future" aspect was interesting in season one when Ando asked Hiro if they would've even been there to make the comic come true if they hadn't seen the comic and wanted to make it come true. Of course, nothing ever came of it again.
Signs of life. Let's hope this volume straightens the show out. Villains, the more I think about it, was just so god awful. It had decent parts but the volume as a whole was even worse than any bad moments, it was totally incoherent.
If this volume deteriorates into the same thing, I may stop watching. I don't know though, it takes a lot for me to give up on a show.
If this volume deteriorates into the same thing, I may stop watching. I don't know though, it takes a lot for me to give up on a show.
Right. This gets an Average.
Good points.
- The actual story told in the episode wasn't bad for a first part.
- Sylar crushing the team sent to pick him up.
- Sylar's overall story seems interesting.
Bad points.
- TEMIS! I told you! I told you Peter would get some nerfed, single use power! I WIN TEH INTERNETS!
- Seriously, though, Peter's power is almost as useless as him not having any powers at all. He's like Ando, he needs another person with powers around to do anything.
- Hiro's power loss should have been dealt with off-screen. Quick blast from Ando, done. This Hiro-lives-vicariously-through-Ando business isn't very interesting.
- Parkman is now Isaac ? He's been chosen ? I thought Claire was the chosen one ?
Well, at least one character so far hasn't been nerfed. We're only one episode in so I'm sure they'll find a way to take Sylar's powers away - AGAIN.
Forget my previous Rogue analogy. This is becoming more like a FPS video game where you get better and better weapons and so the early enemies aren't so tough anymore, so they take your guns away and make you find new ones so they can re-use those early enemies.
Good points.
- The actual story told in the episode wasn't bad for a first part.
- Sylar crushing the team sent to pick him up.
- Sylar's overall story seems interesting.
Bad points.
- TEMIS! I told you! I told you Peter would get some nerfed, single use power! I WIN TEH INTERNETS!
- Seriously, though, Peter's power is almost as useless as him not having any powers at all. He's like Ando, he needs another person with powers around to do anything.
- Hiro's power loss should have been dealt with off-screen. Quick blast from Ando, done. This Hiro-lives-vicariously-through-Ando business isn't very interesting.
- Parkman is now Isaac ? He's been chosen ? I thought Claire was the chosen one ?
Well, at least one character so far hasn't been nerfed. We're only one episode in so I'm sure they'll find a way to take Sylar's powers away - AGAIN.
Forget my previous Rogue analogy. This is becoming more like a FPS video game where you get better and better weapons and so the early enemies aren't so tough anymore, so they take your guns away and make you find new ones so they can re-use those early enemies.
Luckily, the powers they've gotten rid of are the time travel ones. Hiro is powerless; therefore Peter can't have his power either.
Does Sylar know how to travel through time? Or is that something he never learned? It's hard to keep track because he uses so few of his powers!
Does Sylar know how to travel through time? Or is that something he never learned? It's hard to keep track because he uses so few of his powers!
Peter now appears to be only able to take one ability at a time.
Sylar never copied that particular power. If he was smart, he would have taken all of Arthur Petrelli's when he had the chance.
When Sylar lost his powers in between seasons one and two he was reset to the start with the exception of his telekinesis and his own power - intuitive aptitude (the ability to understand anything just by looking at it). (According to the writers, his guilt over killing Brian Davis caused him to keep the telekinesis)
Since then he has gained:
- Rapid cellular regeneration (Claire)
- Alchemy (Bob Bishop)
- Clairsentience (Bridget Bailey) - i.e the ability to know the history of an object just by touching it.
- Sound manipulation (Jesse Murphy)
- Electricity Manipulation (Elle Bishop, learned by empathy rather than dissection)
- Lie Detection (Sue Landers)
- Imprinting (Joe Macon) - i.e. a fairly trivial ability to literally print whatever the person wants on large amounts of paper.
Sylar has a unique "ability" also, he seems to have much greater control over his powers than anyone else.
I notice that the tasers, darts or whatever they were that the Bag and Tag teams used didn't seem to have much of an effect on Sylar and that we never saw Claire shot with one. Maybe their regenerative healing negates their effect.
Maybe. I'm not opposed to this, but I'd say it's a little ambiguous given how hectic the airplace situation is.
Either way, that wasn't my point. Since Hiro's power is gone, those with the power-copying ability have also lost the ability to travel through time.
Semantics.
And the minute he comes back from the dead is the minute I turn the show off for good.
