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HEROES 3x13 "Dual" (Volume 3 Finale)

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Hiro still has no powers and now with the formula gone there's no way he can get his power back.

Maybe. My guess - and it's a wild guess - is that Ando The Supercharger can jump start the ability gene (or whatever the mechanism is in this show) for those who have lost their powers. He zaps Hiro and voilà Hiro has his powers back.

I like the idea of him being a power booster like Sage is in the X-Men. She was able to give powers to people who had the X-gene but it was latent.
 
It's an interesting theory about Ando but it's not much of a power is it? Someone comes up to him to kick his arse with their powers what does Ando do? he zaps them and makes them stronger so they can kick his arse even harder. LMAO :lol:
 
you know, I wonder if the writers have been scared off by all the brocest slashy fanwankery online, maybe theyre purposely trying to suppress that kinda stuff on the show b/c they dont want to look like theyre trying to attract the wrong audience, kinda like how they did by making Peter & Claire cousins after all the Peter /Claire shipping.

Not cousins. Peter is Claire's uncle.
 
Assuming some of the speculation is correct about who gets which powers and why, I'd think Ando's power is sidekick-sympathetic. IOW, he super-charges those whose side he is on and I'm betting he can weaken/de-power those against whom he fights.
 
At least we learnt on thing, people seem to get their specific abilities because that's sort of what they want. For example Daphne couldn't walk due to her illness so she got the ability to run fast. It also appears that a lot of abilities also get passed on genetically. Parkman inherited his fathers ability, Claires Bio-mum and Bio-mums brother (i'm shit at remembering names) both inherited the same Fire ability. Peters Dad had the ability to take anybodys abilties and Peters ability was pretty much the same ability just slightly different. Nathans power was obviously different because he was injected with the formula and didn't inherit it.

Ando, always being the trusty sidekick is clearly why he ended up with a sidekick style ability. He thought of himself as a sidekick.
 
It's an interesting theory about Ando but it's not much of a power is it? Someone comes up to him to kick his arse with their powers what does Ando do? he zaps them and makes them stronger so they can kick his arse even harder. LMAO :lol:

He knocked Hiro out in the season premiere with his power.
 
It's an interesting theory about Ando but it's not much of a power is it? Someone comes up to him to kick his arse with their powers what does Ando do? he zaps them and makes them stronger so they can kick his arse even harder. LMAO :lol:

He knocked Hiro out in the season premiere with his power.

Well yes, but Hiro didn't freeze time or teleport when confronting Ando which leads me to believe that Hiro in future Tokyo didn't have his ability. If Ando zaps someone who does not have an ability it might be deadly. If he zaps someone with an ability though it would apear not to kill them but enhance their ability.
 
It's an interesting theory about Ando but it's not much of a power is it? Someone comes up to him to kick his arse with their powers what does Ando do? he zaps them and makes them stronger so they can kick his arse even harder. LMAO :lol:

He knocked Hiro out in the season premiere with his power.

Well yes, but Hiro didn't freeze time or teleport when confronting Ando which leads me to believe that Hiro in future Tokyo didn't have his ability. If Ando zaps someone who does not have an ability it might be deadly. If he zaps someone with an ability though it would apear not to kill them but enhance their ability.

Or it could also be that Ando's power evolves with time and does more than just super-charge.
Sort of like Parkman just being able to hear thoughts at first and then being able to do the illusion thing like his father.
 
Hiro still has no powers and now with the formula gone there's no way he can get his power back.

Maybe. My guess - and it's a wild guess - is that Ando The Supercharger can jump start the ability gene (or whatever the mechanism is in this show) for those who have lost their powers. He zaps Hiro and voilà Hiro has his powers back.

I like the idea of him being a power booster like Sage is in the X-Men. She was able to give powers to people who had the X-gene but it was latent.

IIRC, There was a character in one of the Vertigo comics, Storm Watch or The Authority or the similar who could kick start latent meta gene.

In any case, for better or worse, Heroes has a way of solving complex story problems in very easy ways. Witness how Peter and Mohinder were returned to normal. I suspect once they decide to power up Hiro again, it will be something like Daphne racing to steal "the one shot of the formula left" or Ando supercharge ability, or something equally straight forward and fast.
 
So do we think that, if nothing else, Hiro and Ando will stick with Matt and Daphne for a while, or will we once again find Hiro and Ando off on their own journey in Japan? Because I gotta say, that's getting old.
 
I'm not so sure about Hiro's ability coming back.

Only three people had the time travel ability and that was Hiro, Peter and Arthur. Arthur is dead (at least incapacitated), Peter seems to have got his ability back but it's probably been defaulted back to it's start, meaning he's back to the beginning and needs to acquire all his powers again. Hiro does not have his power so not even Peter can aquire it.

I think the writers this time around are trying to get rid of the time travelling aspect of the series since it's played such an important part in the first 3 volumes. I don't think in Volume 4 we're going to see ANY time travelling at all and it's going to focus more on the here and now.

Would a 'time travel free' Volume 4 work?
 
I'm wondering if they'll bring back Molly for Volume 4. Seems like she would be a useful tool for Nathan to find the other Heroes.
 
I think the writers this time around are trying to get rid of the time travelling aspect of the series...
I guess that's why they gave the ability to Daphne, eh?

FutureHiro makes a lot of sense now that we know Hiro's lost his power. With the abilities he had, there was no real reason for him to really devote himself to being a swordsman or learning how to hide from the Big Bad Government (of which he was their #1 enemy, which we saw foreshadowed by Worf's emphasis on his profile while thumbing through them). We also know via FutureHiro that he does at some point regain his abilities.

Sure, you can scoff write it off as being an alternate future, but so far there's been no reason to suspect that the future has been altered at all. Peter still gained his scar (meaning everything up until that point happened originally, too; sorry, but noone gets that kind of distinctive scar in more than one way), Crazy Government Manhunt is still going to occur, we see the foundation for FutureHiro coming to fruition, etc.

Hell, the writing staff of this show has already shown that they don't believe in changing the storyline even during a single season, so why the heck should we assume they're even considering having a different future or past?
 
We also don't know if Arthur's power stealing was actually permanent. Sure, he said it was, but he could easily have been lying about it. He was a bad guy after all.

Maybe the powers he takes are only gone for a few weeks or months? Maybe Hiro's powers will slowly return over the next season or two?
 
Frankly, I'm surprised we didn't see Arthur's "powers" fly out of his body and back into the people he stole them from as soon as he died.
 
I guess that's why they gave the ability to Daphne, eh?

Trust me, we'll never be seeing that again. It was the only way to get Hiro back from the past. Now that problem is solved the time travelling Daphne will be conveniently forgot about.

Peter still gained his scar (meaning everything up until that point happened originally, too; sorry, but noone gets that kind of distinctive scar in more than one way),

Actually the scar he had from the future and the one we saw in Volume 1 in the post nuked new york episode that he had went down the middle of his face, the cut Peter gained in the last episode was a small one on his cheek. A completely different scar, infact we don't even know if that cheek cut will even scar.
 
The easy death of the puppetmaster. I actually wanted him to kick Sylars arse at least to begin with and have some fun with Sylar by making him slap himself in the face or something, I honestly thought Sylar might have met his match. I would have rather the puppetmaster stop firewoman from running away which in turn made his hold on Sylar weaker allowing Sylar to then kill him.

As had been said, the Puppetmaster could only control people physically. Sylar is very strong mentally. He should've killed Sylar straight away, rather than play with him.

When Claire was sneaking up on Sylar, did Sylar still have the super hearing power he got in Season One? Or was that lost during the Season Two duldrums?

Hiro still has no powers and now with the formula gone there's no way he can get his power back.

Never say never - Sylar got his powers back thanks to Claire's blood in ep211...

I thought Knox turning good guy might have been a good idea but they instead chose to save freezewoman over him. Bad move.

Knox was a dumb character. I never liked him. Why did he have to take a deep breath before he attacked anyone - breath in the fear? :rolleyes:

The next volume just looks like it's going to be a rip off of the X-Men.

And yet you say this....

I would have liked to see a showdown between firewoman and freezewoman with firewoman winning.

...which is straight out of X-Men 3! Granted, I was hoping for the same thing...

Heroes has potential to be one of the greatest series to ever hit the TV but the writing is completely fucked up, I could write a better episode whilst sitting on the toilet squeezing out a turd.

Oh come on, you're not writing for Enterprise or anything. :)
 
I just can't jack off to this show any more.

It's like you married Madonna 10 years ago, and you're still expected to sleep with her despite what she's become.

Be free Guy Ritchie, be free.

The heroes Producers just don't get it, or they never would have hired Chad Faust.

Because it's spitting on the 4400's grave just a little harder.

Seriously, the powers in a syringe gag was a nod to the reanimator movies and handled perfectly by the 4400, and now we have this bottleneck storytelling where everything balls back to first principles for no reason whatsoever.
 
The thing with this show is that I think it's actually better if you don't watch it regularly. I tend to dip in and out of it, watching a few eps in a row then missing it for a couple of weeks and so on. I don't get to witness the plotting trainwreck you guys are all talking about. From that casual perspective, it's still quite a fun show. Sort of like picking up the odd comic here and there as a kid. You don't really follow the entire storyline but you get a quick fix of some fun lines & action.
 
Ya know what I find funny about Andos power, when it's in action it sounds exactly the same as the Alien signal picked up at the beginning of Independence day.
 
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