Fuller is like George and not at all like Ned, well, ned at first touch... Everything he touches DIES... Maybe he can make the show so good and entertaining that they have to cancel it?
HEROES 3x13 "Dual" (Volume 3 Finale)
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All Seeing Eye
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Ok, so she runs faster than light to go back in time but just short of lightspeed to travel forward.
The closer to light speed you get the heavier you start to weigh. I'd be interested to know just how she was able to run when she weighed infinite mass.
Which is why Ando pumped her full of more of his juice the closer she got to the threshold.
All Seeing Eye
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At least 16 were filmed before those writers got fired. I'd say most of it is probably in the can by now.
That's why I have no hope for the next volume or for the show. It's MST3K time for it.
I think the show will get a fourth season, which may mean volumes 5 and 6, but unless it does something major to satisfy the core fanbase it will probably go belly up after that.
The ratings have apparently* stabilized at just under 8M (with unusually good demos at that level) so it seems that the core fanbase just wants to look at the characters each week without being too particular about what they're doing or saying or whether it makes any sense at all.
Peter could stand to take his shirt off more often, but other than that, I think we're good.Since NBC has no other ideas that they could replace this show with (Jay Leno at 10pm, cripes, they've given up trying), that makes it safer than it would be on a real network. The biggest threat to any show is what else its network has cookin'.
*For now. If the ratings are the same after the Xmas break, that will tell the tale.
Well with a average audience level for the last month of about 7.8 million viewers and demos that have also dropped to an average of 3.6 in the adults 18-49 category, Heroes is probably safe due to NBC overall, how shall I say this, suckage.
But with the network giving up 5 hours of programming, they will have far more leeway to axe shows, and to try and generate new pilots.
But I do think it should be safe for one season.
But to put its performance, based on ratings against its cost, its not a bargain.
Take the lowly CW's Supernatural a show that is averaging 3.30 million viewers and a demo of 1.3 in adults 18-49 but has a budget that is less then a third (in the 29% to 31% range) of Heroes. Yet it ( a show thats on a network that is so close to going under and a show that has often been on the verge of cancellation) outperforms it based on its cost.
And that isn't considering the fact that Heroes has been consistently over its 4 million an episode budget.
I would assume that one way or another (less effects, cutting production staff, cutting the cast) the show will have to lower its budget.
Fans of the show really need to be thankful that so much of NBC's schedule is performing poorly.
But with the network giving up 5 hours of programming, they will have far more leeway to axe shows, and to try and generate new pilots.
But I do think it should be safe for one season.
But to put its performance, based on ratings against its cost, its not a bargain.
Take the lowly CW's Supernatural a show that is averaging 3.30 million viewers and a demo of 1.3 in adults 18-49 but has a budget that is less then a third (in the 29% to 31% range) of Heroes. Yet it ( a show thats on a network that is so close to going under and a show that has often been on the verge of cancellation) outperforms it based on its cost.
And that isn't considering the fact that Heroes has been consistently over its 4 million an episode budget.
I would assume that one way or another (less effects, cutting production staff, cutting the cast) the show will have to lower its budget.
Fans of the show really need to be thankful that so much of NBC's schedule is performing poorly.
Comparing a CW show to an NBC show doesn't work because NBC cannot swipe Supernatural from CW and put it in Heroes' timeslot. And NBC hasn't shown much ability lately to generate more shows that can come close to competing with Heroes in its demographic appeal. Their best strategy is to do everything necessary to shore up Heroes, because there's no reason to expect there's more where that came from.
The fact that NBC is rerunning (prerunning?) Leno in five nightly timeslots just shows that they've lost confidence in their ability to generate any scripted shows that will do as well as Heroes or Supernatural, and are going for the cheapo strategy. They'll pump out a lot of horrible reality shows, which will flop at as high a rate as their scripted stuff, but with the benefit of being cheaper so the pain will be less. Their strategy is to assume failure, wow. What an admission of defeat.
NBC is cannibalizing its future by doing this. They face a business problem, not a creative problem (or not just a creative problem I should say, hah). Their business problem is all of TV's problem, including CW's (which overall is not a healthy network either - Supernatural is an outlier). The younger audience is still watching TV but they are not watching ads, so it's getting harder for networks to deliver the right demographic to the advertisers. Technology is driving this trend and the technology will not vanish, so the business model is what must change.
The networks like CBS that skew old will be insulated from this problem for a while but not permanently. All the networks should be working on solutions, and the solution is not to devalue your brand by making people associate you with desperation and cheap crap, which is exactly what NBC is doing. Amazingly stupid.
There are a lot of ways Heroes could lower its budget and improve itself that way. The cast is too large, the new characters they introduce usually flop, and the storylines are too scattered.
But the underlying problem is not the budget, it's that Heroes' audience doesn't like watching ads, on that show or any other. If NBC wants to stay viable, they must find new ways to capitalize their audience.
All Seeing Eye
Admiral
Exactly, I mean what was the point in introducing Micahs cousin? the one with the ability to copy things she's seen? pointless waste of screen time.
Exactly, I mean what was the point in introducing Micahs cousin? the one with the ability to copy things she's seen? pointless waste of screen time.
I'm not quite sure here, but I do believe that character was INFINITELY DESPISED, now mark me, she was a pretty wee thing, but every moment she had on screen jellied my soft-on to newer infirm degrees of flaccidity, because of the inane words coming out of her mouth and the morbidly unsound choices she made. So frankly, if she wasn't INFINITELY DESPISED, she'd probably still be around.
I haven't seen Maya for a while either.
We saw Maya for about 3 seconds in Eclipse Part 2 when Mohinder went to look her up at her relative's place in New Jersey. Once he realized his scales were coming back after the eclipse began to pass, he took off before she came to the door.
That was more than enough time for me. I actually liked Micah's New Orleans cousin (plus Granny Uhura) but the story really wasn't going anywhere so I can see why they just outright ignored it afterward.
I doubt we'll ever see Molly again either. Kids are bad mojo on a weekly series 'cause they have a tendency to grow up faster than the story is meant to be advancing.
That was more than enough time for me. I actually liked Micah's New Orleans cousin (plus Granny Uhura) but the story really wasn't going anywhere so I can see why they just outright ignored it afterward.
I doubt we'll ever see Molly again either. Kids are bad mojo on a weekly series 'cause they have a tendency to grow up faster than the story is meant to be advancing.
But somehow I could see light at the end of the tunnel with Molly.
Y'know, just before she's mysteriously maturated like in the 4400 or V The series?
Y'know, just before she's mysteriously maturated like in the 4400 or V The series?
BBC 2's Heroes Unmasked behind the scene's show showed some stuff from 3x14 Fugitives chapter 1 last night.
I loved the way Hiro knocked out Tracy in "Dual".
Claire goes to see Matt just before they're bagged and tagged. Another scene then shows the bagged and tagged Heroes, including Hiro, Claire, Peter, Mohinder, Tracy and several in hoods (those I named were not hooded) on board a plane, being transported some where and Tracy manages to get loose, a guard tried to grab her and then Peter jumped in...
I loved the way Hiro knocked out Tracy in "Dual".
Maybe it's a spoiler, maybe not, but just to be safe....
Anyway, what do you think is going on with Sylar in volume four?
WTF?
He looks like he's having a good time, anyway.Is he evolving into Robocop?
Anyway, my theories about him involve the semi-spoilery knowledge that Lionel Luthor has been cast has Papa Grey (or Papa Fill-in-the-Blank, we still don't know the guy's real surname so it could be Luthor after all).
Sylar's main problem is that he's going to keep ping-ponging between Psycho Killer and Boo Hoo Woe Is Me mode, and annoy/bore/confuse the audience in the process.
I can see what the logic is - his complex about not belonging to any family he feels is worthwhile (or any family at all at this point) prevents him from having the strength of mind to resist the hunger enough that he can at least exert some control over his fate. But it's a hard connection to convey to the audience and it gives the impression of a character who is all over the map (and the fact that in other ways his writing has been all over the map doesn't help matters).
The solution is to put an end to the ping-ponging, retain a certain level of Psycho Killer-ness but give him more control over his behavior. Have him net out at the level of, say, Dexter Morgan - he's still a psycho, but largely a self-controlled one.
Daddy is the key to this. All Sylar really needs is someone who is permanently fill the role he was seeking in Elle, Suresh Sr., Suresh Jr., Angela, Arthur, and back to Elle. Considering how consistently he's been seeking someone to fill that role, it shouldn't be hard to write convincingly. If Daddy ends up being killed off eventually, his real Mom could step in, or maybe by then he will have evolved past the need for a crutch of that sort.
I am not wild about giving him a sidekick, if that's what the kid is, unless the he's his younger brother or half-brother. Hmm, he probably does have siblings or half-siblings running around, doesn't he?
Anyway, my theories about him involve the semi-spoilery knowledge that Lionel Luthor has been cast has Papa Grey (or Papa Fill-in-the-Blank, we still don't know the guy's real surname so it could be Luthor after all).
Sylar's main problem is that he's going to keep ping-ponging between Psycho Killer and Boo Hoo Woe Is Me mode, and annoy/bore/confuse the audience in the process.
I can see what the logic is - his complex about not belonging to any family he feels is worthwhile (or any family at all at this point) prevents him from having the strength of mind to resist the hunger enough that he can at least exert some control over his fate. But it's a hard connection to convey to the audience and it gives the impression of a character who is all over the map (and the fact that in other ways his writing has been all over the map doesn't help matters).
The solution is to put an end to the ping-ponging, retain a certain level of Psycho Killer-ness but give him more control over his behavior. Have him net out at the level of, say, Dexter Morgan - he's still a psycho, but largely a self-controlled one.
Daddy is the key to this. All Sylar really needs is someone who is permanently fill the role he was seeking in Elle, Suresh Sr., Suresh Jr., Angela, Arthur, and back to Elle. Considering how consistently he's been seeking someone to fill that role, it shouldn't be hard to write convincingly. If Daddy ends up being killed off eventually, his real Mom could step in, or maybe by then he will have evolved past the need for a crutch of that sort.
I am not wild about giving him a sidekick, if that's what the kid is, unless the he's his younger brother or half-brother. Hmm, he probably does have siblings or half-siblings running around, doesn't he?
I want this show to survive and turn itself around creatively. The premise and most of the characters and actors are just too good to lose. Cmon, show! At least in Sylar's case, I have some hopes that they're working out his problems as a character at last.
Here's a question for the peanut gallery. When Sylar's Mom is cast, and we know she's going to show up sooner or later, who should it be? Too bad they've already established that Ellen Greene isn't his real Mom because I thought she really fit the part.
Hayden Pannetierre. Make it some weird Hiro-induced time loop thing. It would be really fun.
You mean Lionel Luthor don't you?
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