Here is how I think the federation works without needing money.

[Ithekro]

The Bajorans were still in a state of moderate chaos that first year. Their government was provisional, and not far from collapsing into Civil War. Teaching children on a space station was not a government priority. Most people had been leaving the station before Sisko "talked" Quark into staying, and than they moved the station to the newly discovered wormhole. This did two things. One, it made Bajor and the station important. Two, it took the station out of transporter range of Bajor. I would guess that prior to the move, any children on the station could go to school on Bajor. Even if they just shuttled down like a school bus load, it would be quick when the station was still in orbit of Bajor.

 

[Tenacity]

In later seasons Jake seem to be home schooled, leading me to think he also was prior to Keiko's little experiment.

I'm guessing that the Bajoran children on the station were either being home schooled, or perhaps there was some kind of private schooling happening through the temple.

The Bajorans are a civilized and technological people, they're going to (in some fashion) educate their children.

Perhaps what Keiko was saying to Sisko, was that the station lacked a formal Federation curriculum public school?

Because Keiko's school had the endorsement of the Emissary, Bajorans sent their children there, for that reason.

 

[Push The Button]

A real-world analog (sort-of) of Joseph Sisko's restaurant:
https://instagram.com/p/BTPDD0vF61D/

 

[Dispaminite]

Jake was learning from the computer, if I remember the dialogue correctly. The reason Keiko decided to open a school was to provide structure for the children on the station that was, otherwise, unavailable.

 

[UnknownSample]

For practical purposes, the Federation HAS money, but it's called "credits". People always take things too literally... The sense in which the Feds don't have a "money economy" lies elsewhere than on the level of everyday public usage.
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Even writers can misunderstand this. Jake went on about having no money in "In The Cards", but he has credits. He has to.

 

[Tenacity]

For practical purposes, the Federation HAS money, but it's called "credits".

Similar to how the UK has money, but it's called Pounds.

Or Kilos, or Stones, I've never had their money straight.

 

[Tallguy]

I was going to respond to this, but I was too busy in the "Is Starfleet a Millitary" threads.

Bloody genius.

 

[E.M. Ericson]

A line of dialogue by Lieutenant Vincent DeSalle in "Catspaw" states, "Maybe we can't break it, but I'll bet you credits to navy beans we can put a dent in it." This likely indicates that Starfleet members get paid in credits, without physical currency involved.

Technically, any Starfleet member or Federation citizen deemed a dissident by the Federation could get their "electronic credits" completely frozen with no fallback.

Do you think this is what Star Trek meant by the future without money in the Federation?

 

[Spot261]

Hi EM Ericson and let me be the first to welcome you.

Just a word of warning though, this question comes up pretty often and typically results in a repetition of an argument people have been having for the past fifty years without resolution.

Sit back and watch the show, it should be enlightening

 

[Shamrock Holmes]

Hi EM Ericson and let me be the first to welcome you.

Just a word of warning though, this question comes up pretty often and typically results in a repetition of an argument people have been having for the past fifty years without resolution.

Sit back and watch the show, it should be enlightening

What he said.

Personally, I agree as far as practicalities go. As any complex system requires a mechanism for measuring the relative worth of tangible assests and resources.

However, I don't necessarily discount the idea that Federation (and particularly Earth Humans) have "moved beyond" the idea of money itself having value.

For example: Someone like Scrooge from Christman Carol (who might have had money in the bank but lived like a pauper for the most part) would be regarded as "poor", but a farmer with little money in the bank but a large productive farm or a talented and successful scientist would be regarded as "rich".

Does that make any sense?

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

As Picard said in First Contact, they've moved past the need for material gain, whilst replicators give them all they need so I doubt Starfleet personnel have much need to get paid. The Federation would use some form of currency for their trade agreements with other species. Personnel on assignment or leave to non-UFP planets/bases (such as those on DS9) are probably issued with an "allowance" to procure services and goods, or all of these are billed to Starfleet Command which then sorts out payments. That's how I always view money in the 24th century, but seeing as how it's not an important thing to the characters (except for Quark) then I tend not to worry about how finances work in the future.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Yeah, the previous version of this conversation was only a month dormant, so I've merged.

 

[Tallguy]

Hi EM Ericson and let me be the first to welcome you.

Just a word of warning though, this question comes up pretty often and typically results in a repetition of an argument people have been having for the past fifty years without resolution.

Sit back and watch the show, it should be enlightening

Well part of the contention is that we haven't been arguing this for fifty years, more like thirty.

Welcome EM Ericson. Please feel free to go find a variation of this arguments twin, Is Starfleet a Military.

 

[The Wormhole]

Is Starfleet a Military.

*Gasps* Not the Forbidden Subject...

 

[Nyotarules]

As Picard said in First Contact, they've moved past the need for material gain

Picard said a few things that did not match the reality of what we saw on our tv. (cough, cough, 'we are not the military')
I guess that human guy, Liam Bilby in Honor among thieves joined the Orion syndicate for the company. And the Starfleet officer who was a spy for the syndicate (he was paid money to turn grass, now why did the silly fool take money from the mafia when he would never need it?). The Bank of Bolias, a Federation planet is robbed in the episode, they probably keep warp coils and dilithium crystals in the vault or something.

 

[The Wormhole]

Liam Bilby in Honor among thieves joined the Orion syndicate for the company.

Wouldn't you? The Orion Syndicate likely knows how to party, unlike those stuffy Starfleet and Federation guys who refuse to spend money and instead proselytise to aliens on the superiority of the human condition. Plus, where else can guys be guaranteed lap dances from a green-skinned girl?

 

[KennyB]

Join for the company......stay for the chicks............

 

[Nyotarules]

Join for the company......stay for the chicks............

And the hens....

 

[Tenacity]

As Picard said in First Contact, they've moved past the need for material gain

Picard said a few things that did not match the reality of what we saw on our tv.

Also in FC, Picard said that the people in the future were selfless like Cochrane and Sloan, which brough a brief laugh from Sloan.

Another misconception from Picard.

 

[CorporalClegg]

For practical purposes, the Federation HAS money, but it's called "credits". People always take things too literally... The sense in which the Feds don't have a "money economy" lies elsewhere than on the level of everyday public usage.
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Even writers can misunderstand this. Jake went on about having no money in "In The Cards", but he has credits. He has to.

How are credits not literally a a current medium of exchange in the form of banknotes?