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HBO's "Westworld", starring Anthony Hopkins/produced by J.J. Abrams

didn't they show her getting killed by Bernard (in flashbacks, under Ford's orders) last season?
All it showed was that it was Bernard grabbing her and Ford ambiguously noting "we all have to do terrible things" (or words to that effect). The whole thing has felt deliberately unclear, so I keep clinging onto hope that she's still alive.
 
I thought it was a lot more straightforward than most of Season 1 was. The only part I'm not sure about was the very beginning with Bernard or Arnold and Delores.
I know you said it was father in the future @DigificWriter, but with everything going on, I'm not sure when he would be able to take the time out to sit down with her and talk. The only way I could see it working is if it's way later and they've managed to get everything back to the way it was, but that seems unlikely given everything that's happened.
One thing I can't remember is, were we ever given a straight answer about where Ford's programing ended and where Delores and Maeve started acting completely independently.
 
One thing I can't remember is, were we ever given a straight answer about where Ford's programing ended and where Delores and Maeve started acting completely independently.

Dolores reached consciousness on her own ,spurred on by the Reveries and their activation of her memories.

Maeve was the one Ford gave a new narrative to, but she reached consciousness the moment she broke away from it and got off the WestWorld departure train to go find her daughter (as confirmed by Jonah and Lisa).
 
HBO is probably disappointed that 100k fewer people watched the season 2 premiere than the season 1 finale. This show failed to achieve growth, and thus is guaranteed a short shelf life.
 
^ When are you going to wake up to the fact that "traditional" ratings mean very little in this day and age, especially for a network like HBO?
 
I was just looking through Io9's article on the season premiere, and it says Bernard said he killed the hosts at the end. I could have sworn he said "he" not "I".
I also forgot about the whole thing with Delos keeping the DNA and records of what all the guests do at the park. That was kind of a small part of the episode, but it feels like something that could be HUGE as the story goes on.
 
I was just looking through Io9's article on the season premiere, and it says Bernard said he killed the hosts at the end. I could have sworn he said "he" not "I".
I also forgot about the whole thing with Delos keeping the DNA and records of what all the guests do at the park. That was kind of a small part of the episode, but it feels like something that could be HUGE as the story goes on.
I suspect it might be a Futureworld type plan.
 
So replacing real people with Hosts? That does seem like the most likely reason, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's more to it than that.
 
I was just looking through Io9's article on the season premiere, and it says Bernard said he killed the hosts at the end. I could have sworn he said "he" not "I".
I also forgot about the whole thing with Delos keeping the DNA and records of what all the guests do at the park. That was kind of a small part of the episode, but it feels like something that could be HUGE as the story goes on.

I was watching the episode with Captions on, and Bernard definitely says "I killed them. All of them".
 
I heard "I killed them," too, so I was also surprised to read that io9 and A.V. Club thought he said "he."
 
Why did Bernard suffer "critical corruption" when he tried to access the mesh network? Maybe a safeguard against hosts trying to access that network? He was lucky he knew how to fix it using that liquid he extracted from the orher host.
 
Why did Bernard suffer "critical corruption" when he tried to access the mesh network? Maybe a safeguard against hosts trying to access that network? He was lucky he knew how to fix it using that liquid he extracted from the orher host.
I thought it was because he was injured earlier on. Remember how he first noticed the clear liquid coming out of his ear or neck during the barn scene?
 
Bernard's cortical shield was damaged when he killed himself on Ford's orders at the end of The Well-Tempered Clavier, and Felix didn't fix that part of him when he revived him on Maeve's orders in The Bicameral Mind, which happened only a matter of hours before Dolores shot Ford, kicking off the "flashback" events seen in Journey into Night.
 
Well, that was a whole lot of shooting and killing. If I'm supposed to be sympathetic toward the Hosts and their quest for freedom, that didn't really help the cause-- and they sure didn't help their own cause by committing mass murder. I guess this is what happens when you have sentient robots and no Daneel Olivaw. The rebels are just as bad as the oppressors-- I wonder if that was an intentional metaphor for the times or not.

I'm glad they're continuing the format of a non-linear narrative, even if it's no longer a big secret. It's definitely part of Westworld's unique flavor, and it adds to the feeling of disassociation, both on an individual and societal level. And maybe they do still have some surprises in store.

I heard somebody mention that there were six sections to the park. Did we know that already?
 
Bernard's cortical shield was damaged when he killed himself on Ford's orders at the end of The Well-Tempered Clavier, and Felix didn't fix that part of him when he revived him on Maeve's orders in The Bicameral Mind, which happened only a matter of hours before Dolores shot Ford, kicking off the "flashback" events seen in Journey into Night.
Huh, when exactly were those details mentioned, specifically the term "cortical shield"?
 
I heard somebody mention that there were six sections to the park. Did we know that already?
I'm pretty sure I saw people talking about the 6 sections before Sunday, so it must have been mentioned somewhere before the Journey Into The Night.
 
In The Bicameral Mind when Maeve and Felix find him and Felix brings him back online.
Ah, thanks. Somehow I managed to miss that bit during my rewatch.

I'm pretty sure I saw people talking about the 6 sections before Sunday, so it must have been mentioned somewhere before the Journey Into The Night.
It hasn't been mentioned on the show, but it came up on the fake park website that was published a couple of months ago.
 
Does anyone have trouble with audio on the show? It's something that has greatly annoyed me. See, I watch it on an HDTV with the TV's built-in speakers. Nothing fancy. Don't have surround sound, nor do I have the room for it. I really struggle to hear what people are saying on the show. All the other sound just drowns it out. Turning it up, and I have to turn it up lots, only enhances the other sounds while I still struggle to hear the dialogue.
 
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