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Haynes Enterprise Manual? ... Part Two...

^ That sentiment probably explains why the FJ blueprints continue to hold on, despite being openly contradicted by onscreen evidence and disowned by Roddenberry himself.

They're on paper, therefore they're supposedly "real."
 
I've printed out copies of my shuttlecraft plans and other folks' stuff. Does that mean they're now more real?
 
I've always rather liked FJ's work myself, despite it not agreeing with canon materials to some extent. I agree with Warped9's sentiment that some of the best and most consistent work comes from the fan base.
 
Warped9, your shuttlecraft plans are the "real" thing as far as I'm concerned. :techman:
Thanks.

That project got sidelined for quite a while. But now I'm getting the urge to finish it. I've got all the exterior views done. I've got most of the interior views done. I've got the inner hull external views done. I have the history and specifications done. I have the project notes done. I have the starflight formulas done.

Next is to do the structural spaceframe and then integrate that with the interior cross section views.

I've decided to scale down the project and set aside my Class H designs simply because I'm not sold completely on anything I've come up with. Also, if the TAS episodes had actually been done as live-action then except for the aquashuttle a standard Class F would have served perfectly well in the "Slaver Weapon" and "Mudd's Passion."

Class F exterior: 6 sheets
Class F interior: 6 sheets
Class F Lifeshell Inner Hull: 2 sheets
Class F Structural Spaceframe: 2 sheets
U.S.S. Enterprise Class F Complement: 1 sheet
Class F History & Specifications: 1 sheet
Warp and Impulse Flight Formulas: 1 sheet
Class F Project Notes: 1 sheet

Total = 20 sheets

The only way I'd expand this project again would be to go ahead with my take on the Enterprise's hangar and flight deck facilities. I'll really have to think about that.
 
The bridge is the bridge, a deck unto itself.

Deck 2 surrounds the bridge, but the bridge, being a separate, plug-in module (the exact position of which is variable, depending on the mission profile), is not considered a part of Deck 2, it's considered to be the bridge.
 
Okay, I don't and shouldn't presume to speak for anyone else.

This is inarguable.

I've always rather liked FJ's work myself, despite it not agreeing with canon materials to some extent...some of the best and most consistent work comes from the fan base.

Some's good, some's not, but most of the fannish attempts to revise/redress/"correct" professionally published material are pretty bad.
 
^^ And some of it is damned good and rivals if not better than what TPTB peddle as "official."
 
When was that book thing in April supposed to happen? We're in the middle of the month and still no news regarding the book.
 
When was that book thing in April supposed to happen? We're in the middle of the month and still no news regarding the book.

right about now, IIRC. Though, I suspect that the current lack or air travel into the UK might be disrupting it just a bit.
 
September was the date they were planning on publishing yes but the email Davey got said they had some book fair or expo in April they mentioned where they were planning on having some news and yes its possible the ash may have delayed flights.

I will agree with Warped9 in saying that fan created art and schematics are just as good as the official material but to say that fans should accept that over the source material that the fan work is based on is kind of silly IMO. I'm a huge fan of both and I don't see why we need to choose one over the other.
 
I could understand this book being released in the run-up to the next movie, but now that everyone's (everyone = casual fan) forgotten about the last one?

I'm conerned that this poor timing will mean the Haynes Manual will sink without a trace and the next 'treknical' book after that will arrive after the next ice age.

Not to put a dampner on things :)
 
I will agree with Warped9 in saying that fan created art and schematics are just as good as the official material but to say that fans should accept that over the source material that the fan work is based on is kind of silly IMO. I'm a huge fan of both and I don't see why we need to choose one over the other.
I go with the explanation that works best. If a series production crew or "official" publication comes up with ti, then Fine. But if a a fan based work makes more sense and is more consistent with what we saw onscreen then that's what I give preference to.

And that goes beyond science and tech. The brief snippets of background that James Blish extrapolated on in his adaptation of "Balance Of Terror" regarding pre TOS history in the 22nd century makes far more sense and is more credible to me than anything cooked up in TNG through to ENT. The John M. Ford take on the Klingons is better than what came out of TNG onward (although it isn't wholly inconsistent and exclusive). And Diane Duane's take on the Rihannsu (Romulans) is far superior to what came out of TNG through to ENT.
 
While the rest of us, who want nothing to do with that bloated monstrosity will patiently wait for manuals on the other ships.

CRA, why the fuck should we care about some publication devoted to the nufauxprise monstrosity with it's phallic looking nacelles? How many people around here, including yourself, have created convincing layouts of the TOS E and other ships?

We don't need a stamp of approval.

Okay, I don't and shouldn't presume to speak for anyone else. So I'll just say I don't need them.

Because its NEW and there isnt a lot of info on it, and lots of people actually like it. You're in the huge minority...

RAMA
 
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