The Mintakans may have been a subspecies of Vulcans. Onscreen they were referred to as "proto-Vulcan", but I don't know how that was intended.
I sure as hell don't want to hear those two shouting clichés at each other for another hour!. . . Of course, the question is which one was the subspecies. And you can't ask Bele and Lokai, because you'll never hear the end of it.
In "Balance of Terror," Spock says he thinks it "likely" that the Romulans are "an offshoot of my Vulcan blood."Would Romulans be considered a subspecies of Vulcans? Or vice-versa? Remans a subspecies of Romulans?
(Of course, "race" in Trek is used pretty much interchangeably with "species.")The Romulans are an off-shoot of the Vulcan race, but lost contact with the Vulcans in the distant past. The two races are physically almost identical, and it is extremely difficult to tell them apart, even with sensor readings.
They're all subspecies of whatever that lady in "The Chase" was
Pretty much, yeah (use of the same actress notwithstanding) - or Preserver. For the most part, it would appear that, with some minor biological divergences like organ placement and skeletal-muscular configuration, most "major" humanoid races can interbreed in the Trek universe. We've seen Vulcan/Human (Spock), Vulcan/Romulan (Saavik), Romulan/Human (Sela), Klingon/Human (K'Ehleyr, Torres), Klingon/Romulan (the myriad kids from "Birthright"), Cardassian/Bajoran (Ziyal and tons of Occupation Children), Betazoid/Human (Troi), etc., etc. and so on.They're all subspecies of whatever that lady in "The Chase" was
A proto-Founder?![]()
Which branch becomes the sub-species in that case? The one with the smaller Population? Or the one that diverged more obviously from the nearest common ancestor? Or the cultural less dominant one?
Pretty much, yeah (use of the same actress notwithstanding) - or Preserver.
For the most part, it would appear that, with some minor biological divergences like organ placement and skeletal-muscular configuration, most "major" humanoid races can interbreed in the Trek universe.
Vulcan/Romulan (Saavik)
What I find most fascinating (and amusing), is that we see the torture and general ridicule that Spock endured at the hands of his classmates and other members of both Vulcan and Human society throughout his life, yet Sela seems to have been so completely accepted into the Romulan social structure, that she attained a high rank and command of her own, and at a far younger age than Spock did.
For that matter, while I despise Nemesis as a film, that same acceptance applied in the Reman culture to Shinzon. He didn't even have Reman or Romulan DNA like Sela, yet he was fully accepted by the Remans and feared and respected by the Romulans alike.
it's often been shown to require technological intervention to make it happen
Biologically, they are Vulcan.
Or maybe she suffered the same persecution but fought her way up through the ranks and earned a high status despite her origins.
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