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Wingsley

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I'm posting this in the "fan art" forum because (1: my question involves aesthetic and design concerns, and (2: this topic doesn't fit anywhere else.

My question is about "prime Universe" TOS/pre-TOS, TMP-era movies, TNG and DS9. I am mostly focusing on TOS and pre-TOS.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but throughout STAR TREK, we've never seen any of the Starfleet characters wear hats that match their uniforms. The Romulans in TOS and the Enterprise security guards in the movies were seen wearing tightly form-fitting helmets, but that was about it.

Take the standard duty uniform Starfleet personnel wear aboard ship. We saw a brimmed cap in Captain Pike's quarters in "The Cage", but we never saw a character wear a uniform hat of any kind.

My questions would be twofold: (1: are we to assume from this that "the absence of evidence implies the evidence of absence", in essence, that "Starfleet personnel never wear hats", and (2: if we do assume that uniformed on-duty personnel may wear hats in some circumstances (that we never saw in cannon), than what would those hats look like?

I'm assuming that the first question's answer is obvious, that hats are not somehow forbidden or otherwise unthinkable in STAR TREK. That seems a little silly given that Pike had one in his quarters. As for the second question, I'm especially curious as to what kind of coordinated uniform hat would match the standard colored shirt and black trousers Starfleet fatigues we saw the characters wear in TOS. I'm trying to envision Captain Kirk or Ensign Chekov wearing a garrison cap, or maybe some kind of beret... Maybe there's some other possibility...

My primary concerns would be if such a hat would fit in with the minimalist design philosophy that seemed to permeate TOS, and still have at least some influence post-TOS.
 
Hi Wingsley,
I'll start the ball rolling by mentioning the hat worn by the starfleet officer when they bust McCoy out of jail in "Star Trek III" (the one who calls Sulu "Tiny"). There's a pretty clear screencap of it at Trekcore, and I can see why the rest of Starfleet keep theirs in the closet, if they have them. It's a kind of baseball cap with strange "futuristic" bits on the top, and the "solar system" logo that's on the sleeves of the landing party jackets in "Star Trek II" on the front of it. It looks remarkably dated to my eyes.
My own guess is that Starfleet uniform caps would be similar to the ones in "Forbidden Planet", if they have them at all. It always struck me that a cap would only really go with a much more formal outfit, maybe a black uniform jacket with a belt, and that the TOS uniforms we see are purely for shipboard use where a cap wouldn't be needed?

Timon
 
Enterprise had baseball caps.

Ok, sure, it was 100-200 yrs before everything else, but there ya have it. They're not in the series a whole ton, but the crew wear them.

So, hats/caps wouldn't have to be garrison and dress type stuff. Practical field hats (IE, designed to keep sunlight out of your eyes and off of your neck/head) may be more common, esp. in TOS.
 
^ Yes, that cap in Pike's quarters was the one I was talking about.

Now, I wonder what a uniform hat would look like that would match the TOS uniforms...
 
Hi again Wingsley,
This isn't really answering your question (I'm not much of an artist) but I did remember something else. Checking back, The "Federation Reference Series" did a really exhaustive set of uniform drawings, and included the hat. Their assumption was that it went with the more ornate uniform worn by the "sleazy" starfleet officer in the Orion green girl sequence.
It did raise a thought with me: regulation headgear will almost certainly mean regulation hair styles. What sort of hat would Janice Rand (and to a lesser extent Uhura) wear? Of course, a woman's hairstyle can change as required, but I still think that headgear was out of favour in that period of "Star Trek" history. Although, Original "Trek" did have a quite wide variety of different Starfleet uniforms (particularly captain's uniforms) so maybe it would be less a case of "what kind of cap goes with the uniforms we saw" and more "what style of Starfleet uniform would look as if it fitted with the known varieties, but include a cap"?

Timon
 
Add to that different shaped heads for different member races. What kind of hat would work on both a human and an Andorian?

Not such a big deal during the TOS era when the universe operated under severe SFX budget restraints, (far better than those of the pre-TOS age to be sure) but by the time of the movie (& post) period rolled around the universe had a larger budget to work with.
On a related note, I think that the universe's SFX budgetary crash during the post-VOY "fan-film" era could be seen as a mirror of the economic crash of one particular planet.
(And why is it that aliens looked better in ENT than TOS? It doesn't make cannonical sense. If ENT takes place pre-TOS than the universe's SFX budget should have been crap.)
 
Nog wears at least a headdress, if not a full "hat", with his Starfleet uniform in colors matching the uniform. We don't know what that article of clothing means, if anything, especially since we don't see all Ferengi males wearing them. It does seem to be at least one piece of evidence that the uniform can be adapted to different cultural needs.
 
I think in Ro's case, Riker was equating them to earrings worn by human women and would therefore not be allowed, as opposed to the culturally significant item that it actually is. He just had to go through some cultural sensitivity training to realize it. :D
 
If you head over to the Cygnus X-1 site and check out the scans of Federation Reference Series Volume 4, they have an illustration of Pike's Cage hat and uniform as they would have appeared.
 
The whole notion of TOS-era women's hairdos and the differently-shaped heads on many Federation races raises another issue: how do they fit into spacesuits?
 
You know those vacuum bags that they try to sell on TV that are supposed to let you put a ton of your crap in your closet?

That, except for people's heads.
 
Hey, don't knock the "Space Bag"!

I've had to do a lot of business traveling over the last 7 yewars or so and those things have been a life saver, allowing me to cram a lot more into a single "carry-on" I wouldn't have to worry about the airlines misdirecting. They may seem like an implausible gimmick, but they really do work! You don't even need a vacuum to extract the air, just a nice fat a$$ that can apply pressure to the overall surface area, forcing air through a one-way valve.

Sincerely,

Bill
 
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