Actually I really liked that film although it's sad that here we are in 2010 and rather than going to Saturn we're actually retiring the space shuttle
Has there ever been a sequel so stupid you refused to accept it?
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Actually I really liked that film although it's sad that here we are in 2010 and rather than going to Saturn we're actually retiring the space shuttle
ST;V is pretty bad but it doesn't ruin your enjoyment of what's come before which is why Alien 3 beats it hands down in the sucking-beyond-the-telling-of-it department. As for the 'dream' idea it's not so far-fetched and pretty popular amongst Alien fans, the last line of Aliens is Ripley telling Newt they can both dream all the way home and would explain some of the illogicality of Alien 3&4
Yep, exactly the same here.On the other hand, I can find a lot of redeeming qualities in Terminator 3 (good action setpieces; tough and uncompromising ending) and Spider-Man 3 (thought Emo Peter Parker was one of the best comic relief scenes in recent memory; loved Topher Graas' Eddie Brock). My credibility: gone?
That's not to say they are great or even good movies, but there are elements I like enough to warrant a watch every now and again.
Not much mention here of Return of the Jedi. It was already an unsatisfying conclusion when it came out. Now, with the added backstory of the prequels, it SCREAMS out as the weak link of the whole series. After seeing the enormity of the last change in government, the Clone Wars, it's just preposterous that the fate of the galaxy hinges on a relatively minor battle on some far-off moon. Luke seems laughably under-powered as a "full Jedi". (even without CGI, they could have shown him doing more unbelievable stuff) It's just a really weak film which unfortunately follows the strongest (story-wise) film of the series. The only one of the six that I never watch.
I agree with the above poster about 2010. That book would have made a much better mini-series but HAD to be a film only because it was a sequel to 2001. Too much of the book was chopped or changed to conform to a 2 hour film.
I agree with the above poster about 2010. That book would have made a much better mini-series but HAD to be a film only because it was a sequel to 2001. Too much of the book was chopped or changed to conform to a 2 hour film.
It's a bit of a problem with the Superman mythos overall, I think, at least in its modern form. Here you have an invulnerable, incredibly powerful being who did nothing to earn his abilities except get lucky about where his spaceship landed, whereas his main antagonist is just an ambitious, brilliant man who resents that the alien got a free ride to greatness.
It's too easy to sympathize with Luthor, just like Batman beating the hell out of Superman is incredibly satisfying, for much the same reason.
I tend to think of Jaws and The Exorcist as stand-alone movies. To be fair I haven't seen the sequels (aside from 15 unintentionally hilarious minutes of Jaws: The Revenge) so I can't judge them personally, but I've heard so often that they were stupid I haven't bothered.
Alien 3 & Resurrection
Both AvP movies
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
Stargate Universe
Both AvP movies
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
Stargate Universe
I love this film, though I wish it maintained the same tone as 2001. 2010 isn't as good as 2001, but I believe it's a fine movie nonetheless.
Yep, exactly the same here.On the other hand, I can find a lot of redeeming qualities in Terminator 3 (good action setpieces; tough and uncompromising ending) and Spider-Man 3 (thought Emo Peter Parker was one of the best comic relief scenes in recent memory; loved Topher Graas' Eddie Brock). My credibility: gone?
That's not to say they are great or even good movies, but there are elements I like enough to warrant a watch every now and again.
Agreed about Terminator 3, can't agree with Spider-Man 3. Terminator 3 was so-so, but I was amazed that at the very least, I wasn't bored, and was actually quite surprised at the film's length. "Really? THAT much time passed by?"
Highlander 2 by a long shot
The original Highlander was a marvelous fantasy tale full of good action, heartfelt moments, awesome music (Queen's inofficial soundtrack album A kind of magic is one of the best soundtracks ever) and grand themes (my heart always breaks when Connor carries his dead wife up the hill while Queen performs Who wants to live forever).
Then came Highlander 2 and it took a huge shit on everything that was good in the first movie.. seriously. I know actors mostly have little attachment to the characters they play.. they see money and a halfway interesting story and do the job. Whatever drove Connery, Lambert and Ironside to do this shit i'll never understand nor forgive. I saw H2 when i was in my teens and back then i liked every action movie no matter how bad but this was the first i actively disliked.
With other movie sequels like Transformers 2 you know they'll be bad because the original movie wasn't all that so it doesn't bother me that much but Highlander is sacred to me.
Honorable mention goes out to Alien 3.. killing of Newt, Hicks and Bishop offscreen was just lame and rehashing the plot of the first Alien movie was even lamer.
The original Highlander was a marvelous fantasy tale full of good action, heartfelt moments, awesome music (Queen's inofficial soundtrack album A kind of magic is one of the best soundtracks ever) and grand themes (my heart always breaks when Connor carries his dead wife up the hill while Queen performs Who wants to live forever
).Then came Highlander 2 and it took a huge shit on everything that was good in the first movie.. seriously. I know actors mostly have little attachment to the characters they play.. they see money and a halfway interesting story and do the job. Whatever drove Connery, Lambert and Ironside to do this shit i'll never understand nor forgive. I saw H2 when i was in my teens and back then i liked every action movie no matter how bad but this was the first i actively disliked.
With other movie sequels like Transformers 2 you know they'll be bad because the original movie wasn't all that so it doesn't bother me that much but Highlander is sacred to me.
Honorable mention goes out to Alien 3.. killing of Newt, Hicks and Bishop offscreen was just lame and rehashing the plot of the first Alien movie was even lamer.
Cocoon: The Return.
What a piece of crap.
I know the author of the novel the first movie was based on - also called "Cocoon" - continued the series himself with a completely different story in a novel called "Metamorphosis" (though I haven't read it) and had planned a final novel called "Butterfly" but it never materialized...
I can't say if the novel sequel is any good, but I hear the author's intent was to end it with humans going to the stars themselves...which sounds better that the cash-in crapfest "Coccoon: The Return" was...
What a piece of crap.
I know the author of the novel the first movie was based on - also called "Cocoon" - continued the series himself with a completely different story in a novel called "Metamorphosis" (though I haven't read it) and had planned a final novel called "Butterfly" but it never materialized...
I can't say if the novel sequel is any good, but I hear the author's intent was to end it with humans going to the stars themselves...which sounds better that the cash-in crapfest "Coccoon: The Return" was...
All the Jaws sequels are poor. The Lost World is poor, though I accept JP3 as goofy fun. The only one of the Highlander sequels I saw was IV. Don't recall what it's called. Terminator Salvation was ridiculously awful. Erm...can't really think of anything new to add I'm afraid.
Highlander 2 by a long shot
The original Highlander was a marvelous fantasy tale full of good action, heartfelt moments, awesome music (Queen's inofficial soundtrack album A kind of magic is one of the best soundtracks ever) and grand themes (my heart always breaks when Connor carries his dead wife up the hill while Queen performs Who wants to live forever
Then came Highlander 2 and it took a huge shit on everything that was good in the first movie.. seriously. I know actors mostly have little attachment to the characters they play.. they see money and a halfway interesting story and do the job. Whatever drove Connery, Lambert and Ironside to do this shit i'll never understand nor forgive. I saw H2 when i was in my teens and back then i liked every action movie no matter how bad but this was the first i actively disliked.
With other movie sequels like Transformers 2 you know they'll be bad because the original movie wasn't all that so it doesn't bother me that much but Highlander is sacred to me.
Honorable mention goes out to Alien 3.. killing of Newt, Hicks and Bishop offscreen was just lame and rehashing the plot of the first Alien movie was even lamer.
Totally agree on both points. If A3 had been a simple rehash of Alien it wouldn't have been so bad but in Alien you liked the characters (and could tell then apart). Highlander 2 you wonder had the writer even watched the original film? That said Highlander the series stuck with the idea of the Immortals as all foundlings
Just looking back here I said in my original post that I disliked 'Halloween'. Of course I meant to say Halloween 8/Ressurection
These pretty much sum both up for me;
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Thank you Googlecaptain, a girl(?) who would certainly have rescued the Kubyashi Maru (or however you spell it)
Rett Mikhal said:
Wow! Thanks, dude.
Gaith said:
It got away from me. : /
I liked the Returns review, although I don't quite buy it; I thought Clark of Returns was more relatable and more likeable than ever. But then I'm apparently one of like three people that didn't find Returns to be a complete disaster.
Make that four. I like Returns and as far as I'm concerned I, II, & Returns make a decent trilogy. The movie needed a bit more action and Lois was miscast (too young and too passive) but otherwise it was good.
Having said that, I'm not a Superman fan. My biggest beef with Returns is that it tempted Singer and Marsden away from the X-franchise.
You could probably get through JAWS 2 and 3-D if you happen to catch one on TV late one night.
If you saw JAWS 4 in the listings you'd probably make plans to go out so that you're not even in the house when it's on.
True--X-Men 3 did suck. Except for Kelsey Grammar, which was inspired casting.
Of course, there are also the four post-1980 Star Wars movies...
Rett Mikhal
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Well, actually, it was because Fox never (and I mean never) got back to them about making the final X-men film, so they got fed up and left.
Noticing a pattern here with awful third installments with Fox's name all over them?
The Jaws sequels are so monumentally bad even the most laid back film goer really, really needs to dismiss them from canon and memory. The shark... roars. It ROARS! A creature with no vocal cords and a mouth clearly designed for tearing of flesh and NOT for making vocal sounds roars. There's dramatic effect and there's fucking stupid.
Not sure if there are any Thatguywiththeglasses fans here, but Mike J did excellent reviews of Jaws 3 and 4. I highly recommend them.
