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Has blu-ray failed?

I have to wonder how many people here rallying against Blu-Ray (not just saying Blu-Ray and HDTV and 7.1 surround sound is too expensive, but actually being anti-Blu-Ray) would be all for HD-DVD had they won.
 
I went into Blu-Ray thinking it'd be the losing format. Actually, I bought a PS3 first and then started getting Blu-Ray titles because I could. Then later I bought the HD-DVD add-on for the Xbox 360 and got a bunch of titles, and that's when HD-DVD came crashing down.
 
Why the hell is everyone still talking about "replacing all of their dvds?!?!?" Your dvds still work. You can buy NEW releases on BD and upgrade the ones you feel are worth upgrading. My season 1 of Malcolm in the Middle... guess what? Not being upgraded. Band of Brothers on the other hand, probably will. Trading places: great movie... won't get it in HD... Transformers... I bought it in HD right away :p

That's what I've been trying to say a couple pages ago.
That's exactly what I am doing.
My DVD collections dwarfes my BD collection (if you can even call it that at this point) and it will for a long time to come. But cherry-picking the movies I'd like to have in HD is certainly the way to go.

I'll echo both of you. If something new comes along that I want to own, I'm going BD. I'll replace some things as well, as I have with Batman Begins, the Harry Potter movies, and Kill Bill 1 & 2.
 
I didn't buy either, but I always figured HD-DVD would win just because it had HD in the title, and Blu-Ray is a stupid poncy name that's only going to mean anything to a tech nerd.
 
^ And, ironically, both systems used blue lasers. I suspect HD DVD was merely first to secure the obvious name.
 
^
Oh, gosh! That brings back memories of the good old Mega Drive and its ill-fated Mega-CD :D.
 
I wonder if part of Blu-Ray's slow start is that people don't realize how good it looks: not waay better than DVD, but pretty fucking amazing when it is set up properly. I wasn't totally sold on Blu-Ray at first, and wonder if that's because my only real exposure to 1080p was at the Futureshops and Bestbuys when I could only watch for 15 seconds before I was harassed by a salesman. I have seen HD feeds on hockey and football games at bars, but not the same setting as in my home.

Now that I have my rumpus room in my basement turned into a quasi-home theater, I have to say that I love it. Love it. My set up looks amazing. I sit about 5 feet away from my 52" and it is better than going to the theater.

I have several hundred DVDs, and I have no plans to replace any of them, because the difference in quality isn't that great, but the difference in quality is enough that I will buy future movies on BD.
 
My feeling - based on nothing more than my gut - is Blu-ray will catch on. But it will be a slow process, far slower than DVD market penetration.

Agreed. You have every major studio on board--no more fighting with HD DVD. You have just about every new release coming to BD. You have classic movie now on the format--Casablanca, The Searchers, Wizard of Oz next year. Retail is devoting more shelf space to the product. We have the digital TV transition happening next year.

It's not a sprint, it's a marathon. The more people see HD content, the more they'll be inclined to research and get the equipment. Maybe piecemeal, but they will get it. But not as fast as the naysayers expect.
 
Just watching Band of Brothers in Blu-Ray... while I have problems with the interactive field guide (those factoids should pop up automatically, damnit), the picture is just so damn good.
Hell, even the film grain is clearer in the picture. :lol:
 
^It doesn't help HD as a whole when stores set up their displays showing analogue TV broadcasts over a shared RF lead from a weak portable aerial, stretched out from 4:3 to 16:9 so everyone looks fat.
 
I wonder if part of Blu-Ray's slow start is that people don't realize how good it looks:

I think the point is - most people don't care or don't seem to notice.

Which is fine by me. As long as the market penetration is larger enough so the studios will continue to release all the titles for it. The rest I couldn't give a fuck even if you paid to me to do so.
 
I wonder if part of Blu-Ray's slow start is that people don't realize how good it looks: not waay better than DVD, but pretty fucking amazing when it is set up properly. I wasn't totally sold on Blu-Ray at first, and wonder if that's because my only real exposure to 1080p was at the Futureshops and Bestbuys when I could only watch for 15 seconds before I was harassed by a salesman. I have seen HD feeds on hockey and football games at bars, but not the same setting as in my home.

Now that I have my rumpus room in my basement turned into a quasi-home theater, I have to say that I love it. Love it. My set up looks amazing. I sit about 5 feet away from my 52" and it is better than going to the theater.

I have several hundred DVDs, and I have no plans to replace any of them, because the difference in quality isn't that great, but the difference in quality is enough that I will buy future movies on BD.

My feeling - based on nothing more than my gut - is Blu-ray will catch on. But it will be a slow process, far slower than DVD market penetration.

Agreed. You have every major studio on board--no more fighting with HD DVD. You have just about every new release coming to BD. You have classic movie now on the format--Casablanca, The Searchers, Wizard of Oz next year. Retail is devoting more shelf space to the product. We have the digital TV transition happening next year.

It's not a sprint, it's a marathon. The more people see HD content, the more they'll be inclined to research and get the equipment. Maybe piecemeal, but they will get it. But not as fast as the naysayers expect.
Considering the majority of the country is made up of Wal Mart and K-Mart shoppers -- the low income bracket and the welfare families of certain economically disadvantaged racial groups -- I don't see those people forking over their pennies for Blu-ray players and Blu-ray discs when they can snap up DVD on the cheap when they are always looking for sales on food items and discount products.

If we break down the demographic, the customers who are inclined to purchase Blu-ray players and Blu-ray discs currently are most likely college degree holders and/or higher than average income earners than the "average joe customers."
 
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^It doesn't help HD as a whole when stores set up their displays showing analogue TV broadcasts over a shared RF lead from a weak portable aerial, stretched out from 4:3 to 16:9 so everyone looks fat.

Have you seen the posts on here of the people who LIKE that?
 
^It doesn't help HD as a whole when stores set up their displays showing analogue TV broadcasts over a shared RF lead from a weak portable aerial, stretched out from 4:3 to 16:9 so everyone looks fat.


It's a fairly bizarre thing - but I guess that in the store's experience it does not stop people purchasing, so they don't do anything about it.
 
If we break down the demographic, the customers who are inclined to purchase Blu-ray players and Blu-ray discs currently are most likely college degree holders and/or higher than average income earners, and "we" are not the "average joe customers."

34% of US households... that's 40 million people... have HDTVs, a 14% increase since last year. Certainly it is not mainstream yet, but the market is still growing at a healthy clip. Prices will continue to go down and eventually people will buy HDTV's to replace their dead (as in broken, electronics don't last forever) SDTV's. Widespread adoption of HD is pretty much inevitable just like adoption of color TV before it. As benny said, it's not a sprint but a marathon and writing off Blu-Ray based on how the market is now is short sighted at best. But even if HDTV adoption stopped dead in its tracks today, the Blu-Ray market has a large amount of room to grow into.
 
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