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Harry Kim

Have you seen Legend of the Overfiend?

That typifies the the entire continent.

Someone who is post racial would not be able to form questions like "am I racist?" or draw conclusions like "I am beyond race" because that would just pull them right back into the muck after they'd transcended. Jeebus, I'm getting a little Orwell here, but it's not enough that you don't talk racial but you can't think racial either which is impossible unless you were raised in a cellar tied to a radiator by assholes called mum and dad.

I remember an episode of 3rd Rock from the Sun where Dick was questioning race to his GORGEOUS secretary, and she makes a broad comment about how he shouldn't really try to compete with her just because he's Jewish. And he stares at her blankly wondering why... which is when she says "because I'm black!" and Dick slaps his forehead, surprised by the revelation "Oh my goodness so you are, I really must write that down, Mary did you know that Nina was black?"

Personally, I like to say that I am Post TV.

(the ritual of studying the tv guide, and then waiting. Waiting for days. Controlling how you sleep, pee and pooh so that it doesn't get in the way of these precious moments the Industrial Supercomplex trickles you a little media now and then. Last year I was sleeping between 9 pm and 2 am. I was really much more agreeable with a routine.)

I haven't turned the bastard on for 5 years but to watch dvds.

Simbi Khali

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
 
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He's a character who should have been (indeed, was GOING to be) killed in Scorpion and stayed only because the actor was deemed "beautiful" by People.
That's a bad decision if I ever saw one.
 
One of two things needed to happen with Harry Kim, he either should have died or he should have had a bad ass moment where he saved the ship or took command of something that saved the ship and received a battle field promotion. Neither of things happened and Harry Kim remained the most boring main Star Trek character ever, a ham sandwich has more personality then him, if they had replaced Harry Kim with a ham sandwich, no one would have noticed.

Harry Kim should have had an arc, where he started as green, kinda annoying and whiny ensign and at the end became more confident, less annoying, less whiny lieutenant. There was no such arc, so Harry Kim came as a one dimensional waste of a character.
 
Rumor is that the writers originally wanted to kill the character off at the end of season 3 but ultimately it was decided that Jennifer Lien get the axe; I read somewhere that Jennifer was unhappy with her role and she was also allergic to the makeup they used on her. It's too bad though, Kes was wildly unused and had a lot of potential. I'm not saying I didn't like Harry Kim, I think Garrett is a fine actor, but the character of Kes would have been a better choice to keep for writing purposes.
 
But once that allergy reared up, out came her sexy real hair.

It felt odd being attracted to practically a toadstool.

but I muddled through somehow.
 
Part of the problem with Kim was that Wang was just a bad actor who never took his work seriously. Because of this, the writers didn't want to do anything with him since they figured he'd just screw it up anyways, which just made him more of a goof-off so they wanted LESS to do with him.

And because there was no greater external plot to the show beyond "Go Home", or real internal tensions in the crew there wasn't anything for him to do in the first place.

He either should have been killed off in "Scorpion" or just be a Secondary character from day one instead of a central.

Or, just cast someone other than Wang in the role and hope they'd be more charismatic or spastic or SOMETHING and try to give him more.
 
Somewhat off-topic, but related to what's been discussed, I find it fascinating that both DS9 and Voyager suffered from lower-than-expected ratings, particularly in comparison to TNG, and each was asked to do something to try to get a ratings boost. Their respective solutions?

DS9: Bring over a beloved character from the show who's ratings we hope to duplicate.

Voyager: Boobs!
 
Well, DS9 had already given the viewers boobs with Leeta.

...And it isn't like VOY could easily transplant a TNG character to their ship.
 
Riker didn't seem to be too jetlagged on his layover.

You know what would have been supercool?

If when they were on Earth in 1996 that they bumped into Worf or Troi or someone, who were also lost in time.

Actually, when Kirk was there in 1986, why didn't he visit. get some help from Gary 7 and Roberta Lincoln. Hells, if Janeway actually bothered reading other Captain's logs, she would have been able to get in contact with those two or John Christopher too from Tomorrow is Yesterday.

The Federation has allies in the 20th century and... What about if Janeway ran aground of young Jean Luc Picard during her 20th century sojourn played by Tom Hardy which would have backed the hell up on that awful Nemesis flick.
 
Wang was a terrible actor. I'm sure that grated on the writers after awhile, as did his (reportedly) piss-poor behavior.

And while I agree, it shows a certain lack of credibility that Harry never got bumped up (same could be said about Hoshi and Mayweather in Enterprise's finale), the fact is it just doesn't bother me all that much. Data wasa Lieutenant Commander for the entirety of his appearance from "Encounter at Farpoint" through his death in "Nemesis."

Where's the outrage at that?
 
Riker didn't seem to be too jetlagged on his layover.

You know what would have been supercool?

If when they were on Earth in 1996 that they bumped into Worf or Troi or someone, who were also lost in time.

Actually, when Kirk was there in 1986, why didn't he visit. get some help from Gary 7 and Roberta Lincoln. Hells, if Janeway actually bothered reading other Captain's logs, she would have been able to get in contact with those two or John Christopher too from Tomorrow is Yesterday.

The Federation has allies in the 20th century and... What about if Janeway ran aground of young Jean Luc Picard during her 20th century sojourn played by Tom Hardy which would have backed the hell up on that awful Nemesis flick.

I never got the impression that the missions where other starship crews went galivanting around history were made widely available (let alone public) to other starship captains. If we're to take the seriousness of the Temporal Investigations department at face value, it would seem to me that they'd keep that kind of thing as locked up as possible so as not to incur any more damage to the timeline when other people find themselves traveling or trapped in other time periods.
 
"Um. We... Just found these whales. They haven't been extinct for 200 years. We miscounted."

Captains would have to advised of threats before they come to hand, how many Starships is the Federation planning to lose clinging to such cloak and dagger policies as need to know.

between the excavation of the Guardian of Forever, the protocol Starfleet implemented when it began sending ships back for observation and fact finding (Assignment Earth) and any number of other anomalies like Morgan Bates coming back from the dead after 70 years to the detection and manipulation of tachyons, chronotonos and temporal fields being part of the Starfleet academy basic package and something that your bog standard tricorder can measure and annotate.

This is not some secret that only Captains know, 20 year old kids on their first day at the academy are suddenly folded into the conspiracy, but everyone knows that time travel is possible. How boring would the class in Star Fleet History Kathy mentioned taking in Flashback if they edited out all the time travel?

The genie is out of the bottle and there is nothing much that they can do except master the bastard before some one else does.

Then of course there was that bog standard lieutenant, a Doctor even, who had no ambition down science or command who was able to quote the Star Fleet Temporal Displacement policy verbatim chapter and verse in DS9 Future Tense.
 
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Wang was a terrible actor. I'm sure that grated on the writers after awhile, as did his (reportedly) piss-poor behavior.

And while I agree, it shows a certain lack of credibility that Harry never got bumped up (same could be said about Hoshi and Mayweather in Enterprise's finale), the fact is it just doesn't bother me all that much. Data wasa Lieutenant Commander for the entirety of his appearance from "Encounter at Farpoint" through his death in "Nemesis."

Where's the outrage at that?

as did his (reportedly) piss-poor behavior.

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