Harley Quinn webseries (2019)

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  1. JD

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  2. Janeway’s Girl

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    I’m really excited for the finale next week because Harley and Ivy are totally going to get together. I just know it!
     
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    I was pulling for ol' Kiteman. I like the chemistry of the Harley/Ivy friendship too much to ship them.
     
  4. Christopher

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    I finally started watching this. I’ve avoided the show because I heard it was really violent and crude, but I’ve seen glowing reviews of its character work and plotlines, so I finally decided to give it a try. It definitely is far more gory than I care for, and I avert my eyes a lot, but otherwise it’s a damn impressive show, with mostly effective humor and fantastic, nuanced character work. There have been some very funny moments, but also some incredibly poignant, moving, and dramatically powerful moments. It’s the first time I’ve liked Kaley Cuoco in anything; she’s surprisingly good as Harley. (But the last -- really, the only previous -- thing I saw her in was the original Charmed, which was 14 years ago, so long that they’ve already rebooted it.) Lake Bell is fantastic as the best version of Poison Ivy I’ve ever seen. And Diedrich Bader is easily the best Batman voice actor not named “Kevin.” I don't much care for the show's version of Jim Gordon, though.

    The animation is also quite good -- I'd say it's even better than the animated movies DC's been doing lately. The character designs are excellent, especially Harley and Ivy. A good Batman design too. (I'm amused that Alfred is basically David Niven.) And the climactic action sequence this past week was really impressive.

    I just wish I'd started a week later so I didn't have to wait for the season 2 finale. If that makes any sense.


    Alan Tudyk seems to be doing kind of a Hans Conreid-ish sort of thing with his Joker voice. It's not exactly an impression, but it has similar elements.


    I never got the whole "romance ruins a friendship" thing. I'd think that friendship would make it easier to accept and forgive anything that went wrong with the romance. And I don't see how a romantic relationship can really work if friendship isn't part of it.
     
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    It's about not being able to go back to friendship, because after a month of awkward disappointing sex that forces romance termination, its still only one of you that wants the sex to bogg off and die, so you usually have the girl trying to be a friend, but the boy keeps asking for a resumption of intercourse which makes basic friendship difficult.

    Not every one can be as dead inside as Jerry and Elaine from Seinfeld.
     
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    It was only the premiere episode but it was on TBS to boot.

    I think it's a good fit with Doom Patrol on HBO MAX, they're both profane and "out there" but have a lot of heart.
     
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  8. Janeway’s Girl

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    Finally watched the finale. So happy that Ivy came to terms with her feelings for Harley. :adore:
     
  9. Mr. Adventure

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    Worth necrothreading?
    https://variety.com/2021/tv/feature...ion-harley-quinn-umbrella-academy-1234992069/

    Batman oral sex scene cut from new DC series because ‘heroes don’t do that’
     
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  10. Christopher

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    Why are they talking about selling toys in connection with Harley Quinn, which is very, very adult? And why would they have less of a problem with the constant hyperviolence and death than with a bit of consensual pleasure?
     
  11. The Nth Doctor

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    Because Batman must be "protected" at all costs, doncha know?!?!

    A slightly more serious take, everything is all about the toys, no matter what. Period.

    Twitter has been having a field day since this story broke and the responses have been hysterical. :lol:
     
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    Harley Quinn is not even remotely serious, but it is very, very R-rated. It has constant F-bombs and frequent bloody killings and dismemberments and King Shark eating people, all played for laughs, and a number of characters on the show have been depicted as having active sex lives. It's bizarrely incongruous to even bring up children's toys in connection with it. I doubt any 8-year-old buying action figures is ever going to have seen an episode of HQ unless their parents are very lax with the parental controls on HBO Max.
     
  13. The Nth Doctor

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    ....aaaannnndddd you missed my point.

    I didn't say the show was serious. I said my take on the situation was slightly serious.

    But thanks for explaining to me what I already I know about the show.

    (And, again, it's always about the toys. Always.)
     
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    You said "A slightly more serious take" with no other context. Without a pronoun, it was impossible to tell you meant your own take rather than the show's. We can't read your mind, only your words, so word choices matter.

    And the point stands either way -- this is not a show that children should be watching at all. If "it's all about the toys," then why does WB have no problem with the ultraviolence and heavy cursing and drugs and general sexuality, yet incongruously have an objection to this one specific sex act? If it were as simplistic as you claim, then surely they'd censor everything adult about the show.
     
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    I think you're probably the only one who had difficulty parsing what he posted.
     
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    Assuming that the family is even subscribed to HBO Max in the first place.
     
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    This is so stupid. Of course DC is going to protect Batman, the HQ writers/producers/etc are just edgelords trying to get away with whatever they want. The bizarre desire to sexualize mainstream superheroes is just creepy. There are comics for people who want sex with their superheroes, basically half the books Image publishes and horrible shit like that Garth Ennis super prostitute comic. Plus, the internet in general/deviantart in particular exist if perverts really want to see comic/cartoon characters engage in sex acts.

    Batman is a fictional character. He doesn't do any kind of sexual activity, because he doesn't exist. Hell, even his son was canonically not born through sex, he was grown artificially with Bruce and Talia's dna/genetic material. I'm tired of edgey assholes wanting everything to have sex shoved in it. Wanting Batman to do weird sex stuff isn't mature, its shit a stupid 15 year old boy would whine about online, and its kind of pathetic to see people over that age get all offended that DC had common sense and said no to a stupid joke the horrible HQ writers wanted.

    Honestly, if I were WB/DC I'd fire the person who talked about this online, so much drama caused because a bad comedy writer and/or producer was bitter that their shitty joke wasn't approved. Then again, WB/DC should never have greenlit the HQ cartoon in the first place, and it definitely shouldn't have gotten up to a third season, so they kind of brought this on themselves by employing idiots to make a z grade adult swim style cartoon based on one of their properties.
     
  20. Grendelsbayne

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    Yeah, no.