I also notice there were a number of credits labeled as "I am Groot" before flashing and becoming the actual person's name and role they had in the production.
Spoilers Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - Grading & Discussion
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But the same couldn't be said for their handlers.
100 percent agree with all of this except the music. I liked the soundtrack. I agree with the earlier comment on how it was just used a little too overtly and "on the nose."
As much fun as it was, it all felt just slightly forced at times and the middle was a bit all over the place. I truly didn't know where the plot was taking us right up until Egos intentions were revealed.
As much fun as it was, it all felt just slightly forced at times and the middle was a bit all over the place. I truly didn't know where the plot was taking us right up until Egos intentions were revealed.
Totally! I kept trying to find a bit of Amy Pond under all the makeup but she was so different in her role. Cheers for the range of character dynamics in this one.
While I enjoyed this movie immensely, I felt it could have featured a big bad villain like Ronin the Accuser in the first film. Starlord's finally meeting his father and finding out about his parentage was a wonderful experience at first but became a tragedy once Peter found out what Ego was after. I was expecting Ego would be an ally in defeating a great threat, but it didn't turn out like that at all.
A lot of funny moments nonetheless, and I felt Drax had more screen time and added to the humor.
A lot of funny moments nonetheless, and I felt Drax had more screen time and added to the humor.
I've met Karen Gillan in person at con and, yeah, it's hard to "see her" in Nebula. Not just because of the makeup but her entire look, demeanor, her voice. Good acting on her part compared to my impressions of her in person and from what little I've seen of her in other roles.
That's kind of how I was, it was very much, "They're spending a lot of time on this planet expositing things, where is this going?" I figured Ego was going to end up being the villain and that the plant we saw with in the opening segment was all going to mean something at some point, but it just really felt like the movie was taking its time to get us there and get all of the characters "in place."
As interesting as the middle of the movie was it really didn't seem like it was going anywhere until bam everything seemed to happen at once.
It kind of felt like several sessions of playing a pen-and-paper RPG game where things just keep happening, there's some encounters to keep things interesting and to make use of the game mechanics, and the party ends up split-up so the focus has to be divided but somehow bring everything back so that the party is all in one place and on the same goals again.
Going with some other reviews I've watched/read it is probably the best villain in the Marvel stand-alone movies to date, most of the other villains in the stand-alone movies were sort of one-note, generic, "bad guy we have to beat" people. Was Ronin the Accuser really set-up, established and had his motivations made clear? The movie villains, aside from the Avengers movies and the Captain America movies, have been mostly weak one-shots. Here there actually seemed to be depth, motivation, and character to this villain. Though I'm sure a good deal of that is on Kurt Russel's acting.
That's kind of how I was, it was very much, "They're spending a lot of time on this planet expositing things, where is this going?" I figured Ego was going to end up being the villain and that the plant we saw with in the opening segment was all going to mean something at some point, but it just really felt like the movie was taking its time to get us there and get all of the characters "in place."
As interesting as the middle of the movie was it really didn't seem like it was going anywhere until bam everything seemed to happen at once.
It kind of felt like several sessions of playing a pen-and-paper RPG game where things just keep happening, there's some encounters to keep things interesting and to make use of the game mechanics, and the party ends up split-up so the focus has to be divided but somehow bring everything back so that the party is all in one place and on the same goals again.
Going with some other reviews I've watched/read it is probably the best villain in the Marvel stand-alone movies to date, most of the other villains in the stand-alone movies were sort of one-note, generic, "bad guy we have to beat" people. Was Ronin the Accuser really set-up, established and had his motivations made clear? The movie villains, aside from the Avengers movies and the Captain America movies, have been mostly weak one-shots. Here there actually seemed to be depth, motivation, and character to this villain. Though I'm sure a good deal of that is on Kurt Russel's acting.
In the end credits, "I am Groot" was used for a location in a solar system. "I am Groot" translated to "You are here".
I may be one of the few who thought the movie was average. To each their own I suppose
Better than average, I certainly enjoyed myself, but they forgot to have a second act. B-
What we needed to see was Peter and Ego being heroes together, saving a world or whatever with Peter given the opportunity to experience the power he could have at Ego's right hand and the good he could do with it. Instead we have an hour of setup and then a sudden and inevitable climax without any sense of proactive agency for our protagonists.
Imagine if instead of going straight to the Ego planet they're waylayed by a crisis nearby. Peter convinces Ego (the man) they need to help, they do so with Ego giving Peter the insight on how to use the light in order to defeat whatever the threat is instead of in a scene about them bonding over a game of celestial light catch. Rocket and Yondu catch up to them there and help save the day, and they all return to Ego (the planet) in celebration (and for Ego to regenerate), which is when the third act kicks off with Ego revealing the truth to Peter.
The humor was great, the characters are always welcome, but they just whiffed it in the plot department pretty hardcore.
What we needed to see was Peter and Ego being heroes together, saving a world or whatever with Peter given the opportunity to experience the power he could have at Ego's right hand and the good he could do with it. Instead we have an hour of setup and then a sudden and inevitable climax without any sense of proactive agency for our protagonists.
Imagine if instead of going straight to the Ego planet they're waylayed by a crisis nearby. Peter convinces Ego (the man) they need to help, they do so with Ego giving Peter the insight on how to use the light in order to defeat whatever the threat is instead of in a scene about them bonding over a game of celestial light catch. Rocket and Yondu catch up to them there and help save the day, and they all return to Ego (the planet) in celebration (and for Ego to regenerate), which is when the third act kicks off with Ego revealing the truth to Peter.
The humor was great, the characters are always welcome, but they just whiffed it in the plot department pretty hardcore.
That's where I mostly land. There's a lot of good in this and whole lot of average.
Well I watched it last Sunday, really enjoyed it and in my opinion it's the best Marvel film since Winter Solider and the first Guardians film in 2014.
Baby Groot dancing along to Mr Bluesky was just utter brilliance (and learning that Diesel was MoCapping Groot on set adds another layer of amusement to that scene) and he pretty much stole the film, Pac Man and the Hoff were two great blink and you miss them cameos!
And as for a Zune, I have heard of them, just never saw one!
Baby Groot dancing along to Mr Bluesky was just utter brilliance (and learning that Diesel was MoCapping Groot on set adds another layer of amusement to that scene) and he pretty much stole the film, Pac Man and the Hoff were two great blink and you miss them cameos!
And as for a Zune, I have heard of them, just never saw one!
They were a blink-and-you-miss-it cameo in technology.
Omg love this movie. Great effects and relying on characters and their development rather than just battling the villain.
And I needed this.
"He may be your Father but he ain't your Daddy, Boy!"
Now the big question is: how, when and where do we get good models of them ships?
And I needed this.
"He may be your Father but he ain't your Daddy, Boy!"
Now the big question is: how, when and where do we get good models of them ships?
Just got back from seeing it in Glorious IMAX 3D.
I thought it was excellent. Humor and heart. Fantastic effects. The funeral was wonderfully done. Drax is so awesome. I was laughing so hard when he was in bed talking to Mantis...
My only complaints were I thought the music fell short of the grooviness from the first film, and it was maybe 15-20 minutes too long.
But these are minor quibbles.
Solid "A"
I thought it was excellent. Humor and heart. Fantastic effects. The funeral was wonderfully done. Drax is so awesome. I was laughing so hard when he was in bed talking to Mantis...
My only complaints were I thought the music fell short of the grooviness from the first film, and it was maybe 15-20 minutes too long.
But these are minor quibbles.
Solid "A"
Well, this certainly restores a bit of my faith in humanity.
Rocket Raccoon creator Bill Mantlo was once a very prolific writer for Marvel Comics wherein he wrote just about every character in Marvel's stable. Aside from being the creator of GotG's Rocket Raccoon he also created Cloak and Dagger while writing Spider-Man, and had a pretty epic run on The Incredible Hulk.
My favorite Mantlo work was on the licensed stuff. He took Rom, one of the lamest toys the 70s produced and turned him into one of Marvel's best heros and then he did the same thing with the Micronauts.
25 years ago while roller-blading, Bill Mantlo was struck by a hit-and-run driver and left for dead. He suffered permanent brain damage and has required constant attention at a care facility.
With the success of the Guardians of the Galaxy, Marvel has finally given Mantlo's family his due as Rocket's creator with a payout large enough to buy Mantlo a house next to his brother Mike, who has been acting as Bill's primary care-taker.
Bill Mantlo's story is a tragic one, but as a fan, I'm glad that he'll be able to live out the rest of his days in comfort and close to family.
Bravo, Marvel!
Rocket Raccoon creator Bill Mantlo was once a very prolific writer for Marvel Comics wherein he wrote just about every character in Marvel's stable. Aside from being the creator of GotG's Rocket Raccoon he also created Cloak and Dagger while writing Spider-Man, and had a pretty epic run on The Incredible Hulk.
My favorite Mantlo work was on the licensed stuff. He took Rom, one of the lamest toys the 70s produced and turned him into one of Marvel's best heros and then he did the same thing with the Micronauts.
25 years ago while roller-blading, Bill Mantlo was struck by a hit-and-run driver and left for dead. He suffered permanent brain damage and has required constant attention at a care facility.
With the success of the Guardians of the Galaxy, Marvel has finally given Mantlo's family his due as Rocket's creator with a payout large enough to buy Mantlo a house next to his brother Mike, who has been acting as Bill's primary care-taker.
Bill Mantlo's story is a tragic one, but as a fan, I'm glad that he'll be able to live out the rest of his days in comfort and close to family.
Bravo, Marvel!
I think it only felt too long because nothing really happened in the middle of the film. Futurama basically told the same story in 22 minutes.
I felt there was something missing in this film that I really liked in the first Guardians movie. It was fun, and there were some fun bits, but it felt like this movie could have told a tighter story and had a better plot than what we got, which was an almost 2 and a half hour film of gags. The story really didn't get going until midway through the film, and exiting the theater, my main issue with it was they could have cut out some of that story and made an under 2 hour briskly paced film. I was even starting to dose off in the middle of it. Also, the music I felt was more intruding the film this time around rather than complimenting, which is something I liked about the first Guardians.
There were many great things I loved about this movie though. The stuff between Quill and Ego was really great, as was the final scene. I also really loved the special effects of the space ship battles and the main space ship battle was probably some of the best work Marvel has done in any of it's films. Also, the characters were top notch, as expected. I especially liked Drax this time around, and his growing relationship with Mantis.
Overall, it was a decent movie with a few really great scenes.
C+
There were many great things I loved about this movie though. The stuff between Quill and Ego was really great, as was the final scene. I also really loved the special effects of the space ship battles and the main space ship battle was probably some of the best work Marvel has done in any of it's films. Also, the characters were top notch, as expected. I especially liked Drax this time around, and his growing relationship with Mantis.
Overall, it was a decent movie with a few really great scenes.
C+
I saw it again tonight with another friend, like me he was kind of "Meh" on it. It was good and there was some good stuff in it but with some things it seemed to be trying too hard and it seemed to take a really long time before we really find out who the villain really is what his goals are. If you know little about the comics you know Ego isn't being 100% but he doesn't really unleash as the villain until almost the beginning of the last act and you don't start sort-of doubting his motivations until Mantis tries to tell Dax.
He also agreed with me that the movie felt pretty static. There was no sense of the movie going anywhere.
I talked about this some upthread where the characters in the first movie jump from these various, grand, locations whereas here they're sort of just hanging out.
It reminded me of a scene in "House" where one of the exposition scenes comes around where the doctors need to fill House in on the latest developments in their case and says to them something like, "Tell me while we walk down to my office, it gives the illusion the story is moving forward." And there's quite a bit of truth to that. When characters are sitting or standing around talking there's no sense of the movie going anywhere. There's just people talking which isn't ideal for your tent-pole action movies.
He also agreed with me that the movie felt pretty static. There was no sense of the movie going anywhere.
I talked about this some upthread where the characters in the first movie jump from these various, grand, locations whereas here they're sort of just hanging out.
It reminded me of a scene in "House" where one of the exposition scenes comes around where the doctors need to fill House in on the latest developments in their case and says to them something like, "Tell me while we walk down to my office, it gives the illusion the story is moving forward." And there's quite a bit of truth to that. When characters are sitting or standing around talking there's no sense of the movie going anywhere. There's just people talking which isn't ideal for your tent-pole action movies.
Considering how thin some of the MCU villains have been, I kind of dug that this one doesn't even reveal their villain until late in the game. It means we can spend all the early material free of the short villain scenes that are only there to make sure you remember they exist. (Ronan and Malekith, I'm looking at you.)
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