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Spoilers Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - Grading & Discussion
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I noticed James Gunn(the drummer) recreating his baby groot dance moves from the first movie(since he did the mocap for it)
Pity Vin Diesel and Bradley Cooper aren't in it, but otherwise the whole cast seems to be having a lot of fun. 
The Youtube post date is an error - it should read: Aug 6, 1978
[It's scary just how well they recaptured the style of the few music videos of/from that era.]
Love the music video, that is hilarious and awesome.
It sounds like there's a chance we might get a movie focused on the Ravagers team from the end of the movie, AKA the original Guardians team from the comics.
It sounds like there's a chance we might get a movie focused on the Ravagers team from the end of the movie, AKA the original Guardians team from the comics.
Whatta bet this becomes a huge hit in Germany.. The Hoff is still the man in Germany!
Wish this movie could've gotten to $400m but it's a smashing success.
I for one liked Stallone in the film and the nods they made to the original 31st century team.
I for one liked Stallone in the film and the nods they made to the original 31st century team.
Just bought this movie off of Amazon last night and watched it (along with all the bonus content). It was a fun romp, but not as good as the first outing. Just seemed to lack a certain something, some spark was missing. The jokes seemed to fall a bit flat and the movie dragged a bit in the middle.
All in all, a B grade from me. A fun popcorn romp, but nothing really remarkable...
Q2
All in all, a B grade from me. A fun popcorn romp, but nothing really remarkable...
Q2
Current worldwide box office receipts are over $860m so over four times what the movie cost to make ($200m).
I think some people either misunderstood or denied the underlying character themes of the movie (probably denial as those themes could feel very personal) but I hope it will grow on them.
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I came across this article about the comic book version of Mantis - http://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2017/08/19/need-talk-mantis-abuse-guardians-galaxy-2/. I had no idea that James Gunn had changed the character that much.
Not many characters outside of the core Avengers members made it through the script stages without some pretty hefty changes and it seems to me the film version of Mantis gives more room for interesting character growth and doesn't step on the toes of the other kickass women in the cast. It isn't like anyone was fighting to make a Mantis movie or to give her a starring role in The Avengers. Not every comic book character is going to make it to the screen with minimal fiddling, but as long as the movies are actually good and the changes appropriate for their role in them I say bring it on.
I assume there will be opportunities for her to develop her mental and perhaps physical skills now she is free of control by Ego.
I hope so. Because after reading that article, I cannot help but feel that Gunn and the MCU's changes to her characters seem sexist.
Yeah, I'm hoping she'll now have chance to shine.
Considering the strength and growth of the other female leads in GotG 1 & 2, I suspect the growth of Mantis is part of Gunn's plan.
I agree - I wasn't at all familiar with the original portrayal of the character in comic books.
Introducing the stakes in the third act through the discovery of Ego's plans didn't work well for me. That made the rest of the movie episodic and it didn't seem to be going anywhere except to the next fracas. Episodic structure works well when there is a goal to reach. If there was a goal, I missed it because I probably wasn't paying attention.
Having read the article about Comic Mantis versus Movie Mantis, if the movie had Comic Mantis, no one would have to fight Ego because she would have done it herself, and defeated him when she was wise to his plans. But that is not the story. The story is about fathers and sons (and Daddies). It was about Peter's character arc, his development, what he learns. Which should have been pretty freaking obvious.
The article complains about Mantis's portrayal, and I see the point made, but the author seems to forget that only Mantis had the special skill to deliver a "knock out punch" to Ego to allow the Guardians to position themselves to defeat him, and it wasn't a martial art move, but because of her empathic strength. And honestly, not all Asians are technical wizards or martial art masters, if we are arguing the article's point. It should be moot. Not knowing anything about the comic version of the character, I didn't see Mantis as Asian, or presenting Asians, I saw a non-human being—like much of the other characters—that wasn't representative of anything other than herself, who's characterization was necessary for the plot. The large eyes and antenna give it away that she isn't Asian.
Having read the article about Comic Mantis versus Movie Mantis, if the movie had Comic Mantis, no one would have to fight Ego because she would have done it herself, and defeated him when she was wise to his plans. But that is not the story. The story is about fathers and sons (and Daddies). It was about Peter's character arc, his development, what he learns. Which should have been pretty freaking obvious.
The article complains about Mantis's portrayal, and I see the point made, but the author seems to forget that only Mantis had the special skill to deliver a "knock out punch" to Ego to allow the Guardians to position themselves to defeat him, and it wasn't a martial art move, but because of her empathic strength. And honestly, not all Asians are technical wizards or martial art masters, if we are arguing the article's point. It should be moot. Not knowing anything about the comic version of the character, I didn't see Mantis as Asian, or presenting Asians, I saw a non-human being—like much of the other characters—that wasn't representative of anything other than herself, who's characterization was necessary for the plot. The large eyes and antenna give it away that she isn't Asian.
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