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GUARDIANS of the GALAXY - Grading & Discussion

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I came into GOTG blind as I had never so much as glanced at a comic but the previews made it look interesting and I love Star Wars-esque adventures, so that was another draw for me. We've also been watching through most of the Marvel movies to date and enjoyed them all for the most part, so my wife and I took a chance on it and thoroughly enjoyed it from start to finish and can't wait to get it on Blu-Ray when it comes out so that we can show our kids, whom were ultimately regretful that they didn't go when we told them how good it was. Can't wait for the sequel either!
 
Dream said:
GOTG has passed Iron Man 2 with 314 million

Guardians is expected to beat the first Iron Man and become the third highest grossing MCU movie (behind The Avengers and Iron Man 3).

Meanwhile, Green Lantern is crying in the corner.
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That is so kickass! Not the part about Green Lantern, but about the most original Marvel movie doing so well. I hope they are willing to bring in new blood directors in the future.

Captain America (the first one) was so disappointing.
 
Hypaspist said:
Dream said:
GOTG has passed Iron Man 2 with 314 million

Guardians is expected to beat the first Iron Man and become the third highest grossing MCU movie (behind The Avengers and Iron Man 3).

Meanwhile, Green Lantern is crying in the corner.
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That is so kickass! Not the part about Green Lantern, but about the most original Marvel movie doing so well. I hope they are willing to bring in new blood directors in the future.

Captain America (the first one) was so disappointing.
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I loved the first Cap movie. Thought it was better than Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2 or either Thor movie.
 
I was a bit underwhelmed by Cap the first time I saw it, but it really grew on me on home video.
 
Turtletrekker said:
Hypaspist said:
Dream said:
GOTG has passed Iron Man 2 with 314 million

Guardians is expected to beat the first Iron Man and become the third highest grossing MCU movie (behind The Avengers and Iron Man 3).

Meanwhile, Green Lantern is crying in the corner.
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That is so kickass! Not the part about Green Lantern, but about the most original Marvel movie doing so well. I hope they are willing to bring in new blood directors in the future.

Captain America (the first one) was so disappointing.
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I loved the first Cap movie. Thought it was better than Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2 or either Thor movie.
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I quite like how they've treated Captain America. The first one, set in the 1940s, was deliberately given a period flavour in terms of storytelling, not just in terms of setting (though certainly less bound by the norms of the Hays production code than an actual film from the 40s would have been). The second one, while not set in the 70s, definitely made a deliberate effort at evoking 70s era political thrillers of the type Robert Redford made famous (going so far as to cast him--if it had been feasible, I suspect we'd have seen John Wayne or Humphrey Bogart in the first one).
 
I wish the first Captain America actually did have a period feel, but it didn't. It felt so fake in a lot of ways and really had no direction. It was like they were afraid of making a corny, pulpy action movie and instead went with a very typical hollywood action movie. I think there was a serious lack of balls involved in making the first one.
 
Hypaspist said:
I wish the first Captain America actually did have a period feel, but it didn't. It felt so fake in a lot of ways and really had no direction. It was like they were afraid of making a corny, pulpy action movie and instead went with a very typical hollywood action movie. I think there was a serious lack of balls involved in making the first one.
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Captain America was certainly the weak link of the first group of films, but still very watchable. I found some of the comics from just after the Annihilation event storyline, which I read as well--it is much different in tone from the movie, but I am now looking forward to rewatching it again on video.
 
I thought the Thor movie was the weak link of phase I, the first Captain America movie was one of the better ones.
 
I enjoyed Thor because it didn't take itself too seriously. They didn't have the biggest story in the world, and Loki was a good first villain. He worked for the Avengers movie too. More emphasis on the heroes and not on a villain that overshadows them.

Captain America just insulted my intelligence. I know they don't want to make it too dark, but it was completely unbelievable as for being set in WW2. Everything looked and felt fake. Even if it were not set in WW2 it would have been boring with the way it was directed.
 
^ I agree about Captain America TFA. In an age of films such as Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan and other WWII + Holocaust media. The Nazis (including the Red Skull) were portrayed as threatening as Saturday Morning Cartoon bad guys. It's like Marvel Studios went out of their way to make them a child friendly as possible. Which is a shame. Hugo Weaving is a great character actor. He could've brought a lot more to the role and still been in keeping with the film's PG-13 rating.


People narc on WB/DC for using the Nolan Batman model as the template for their movies but Disney/Marvel does the same thing. Only their model template is Iron Man 2008. A mix of kind of serious, witty banter, comedic relief, 3 to 4 scenes of in your face action and villains of varying degrees of intimidation.

Iron Man 2008 and GOTG 2014 pull these off brilliantly and are the most rewatchable films of the MCU.

Iron Man 2 does everything the first Iron Man did and it sucked. It's really just a glorified commercial for Avengers.

Thor 2011 and Capt America TFA 2011 both use the Iron Man 2008 model. Neither of them are at the top of the totem poll when it comes to best superhero movie, but I think Thor comes out better. I attribute that to the fantasy aspect of the film, and Loki's presence in Avengers as to why.



The Phase 2 MCU films Iron Man 3, Thor TDW and Capt America TWS all make out better in terms of quality. Tony's journey comes to a satisfying end in Iron Man 3. This after 4 films (including Avengers) where we've gotten to know him so intimately. Thor and Capt TWS were allowed to tell their own Post-Avengers story and I think that really helped. Unlike their previous films which were sandbagging to the mega event that was The Avengers. TDW and TWS were allowed to tell individual stories that deepen the characters of Thor, Loki, Capt, Natasha and Fury. I feel the Iron Man 2008 model is still being used. More so for Thor and less so for Capt.


Poor Incredible Hulk though. Marvel seems to abandoned that film and it's storyline.
 
M.A.C.O. said:
^ I agree about Captain America TFA. In an age of films such as Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan and other WWII + Holocaust media. The Nazis (including the Red Skull) were portrayed as threatening as Saturday Morning Cartoon bad guys. It's like Marvel Studios went out of their way to make them a child friendly as possible. Which is a shame. Hugo Weaving is a great character actor. He could've brought a lot more to the role and still been in keeping with the film's PG-13 rating.
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Think Raiders, not Schindler's List. I mean, Marvel villains coming off like Saturday morning cartoon bad guys makes at least a little sense, given that there were Saturday morning cartoons based on Marvel. Schindler's List and SPR were way beyond PG-13 anyway.
 
M.A.C.O. said:
^ I agree about Captain America TFA. In an age of films such as Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan and other WWII + Holocaust media. The Nazis (including the Red Skull) were portrayed as threatening as Saturday Morning Cartoon bad guys. It's like Marvel Studios went out of their way to make them a child friendly as possible. Which is a shame. Hugo Weaving is a great character actor. He could've brought a lot more to the role and still been in keeping with the film's PG-13 rating.
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Because Captain America: The First Avenger is going for the tone of a 30s/40s adventure serial, the sort of thing that inspired Captain America in the first place. The villains obviously are not going to act like Schindler's List -- that's totally out of place in that sort of story. Hence the hiring of Joe Johnston, the director of The Rocketeer.
 
Set Harth said:
Think Raiders, not Schindler's List. I mean, Marvel villains coming off like Saturday morning cartoon bad guys makes at least a little sense, given that there were Saturday morning cartoons based on Marvel. Schindler's List and SPR were way beyond PG-13 anyway.
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Raiders is a good comparison. Schindler's List is extreme, but it feels like the Nazi's in TFA were a little to sanitized given their reputation and ultimate goal in the film.

CaptainCanada said:
Because Captain America: The First Avenger is going for the tone of a 30s/40s adventure serial, the sort of thing that inspired Captain America in the first place. The villains obviously are not going to act like Schindler's List -- that's totally out of place in that sort of story. Hence the hiring of Joe Johnston, the director of The Rocketeer.
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I did get that vibe, and I think that is why TFA endears as a film. It's purposefully retro in it's aesthetic and purposefully aiming for those 40's/50's adventure serials. Where a dashing hero braves an insurmountable odds or perils in jungle to achieve his goal. It's just threading the needle of those old stories, with what we know now about the Nazi's action during WWII; doesn't completely gel. If you look at with the same eyes as Raiders of the Lost Ark like Seth Harth suggested, it works though.
 
M.A.C.O. said:
^ I agree about Captain America TFA. In an age of films such as Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan and other WWII + Holocaust media. ... He could've brought a lot more to the role and still been in keeping with the film's PG-13 rating.
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One of these (bolded) things is not like the others...
 
Boooo!!
Now I have to decide if it's really that important to me to have the AoU trailer.

My initial reaction is it'll end up online within days. Even if the lawyers are trying to take them down in earnest initially. Eventually, it'll be online.

For my dollar the Marvel Short is what makes the upcharge to BluRay worth my purchase.
 
Captain Craig said:
For my dollar the Marvel Short is what makes the upcharge to BluRay worth my purchase.
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Really? I own a blurayplayer, but already had The Avengers on dvd. A friend loaned me her copy of The Avengers on BluRay. It looks so much nicer on bluray! For the few euros more, I'm buying the blurays of all these movies when they are released from now on.
 
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