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GUARDIANS of the GALAXY - Grading & Discussion

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Why does everyone speak English in this movie? Or are we supposed to assume they're really speaking "Galactic" or something but it's being translated into English for the benefit of the audience?

It's easier. When the movie is dubbed for Germany everyone will speak German.
 
I've only seen three or four films in 3D. None had any subtitles. Are they hard to read?

I was joking.

Seriously though, I've avoided 3D until this one and it had me on the edge of a headache for a good half hour until I got used to it. Adding subtitles would have made it unwatchable for me.
 
If the characters didn't speak the same language (as the audience) we'd have subtitles.

In 3D.

No thanks. ;)

Probably be in Papyrus font, too.

I just assumed a "universal translator" like situation. Sort of the conceit you have to take when dealing with this type of fiction (goes with Star Trek and Star Wars as well) when it doesn't want to deal with language. There's just "something" that allows these characters from different planets to communicate with one another. Whether it's a translator chip or device everyone has or just, fuck it, the whole universe speaks the language of the audience.
 
I rather liked seeing the opening credits in 3D so seeing the subtitles wouldn't bothered me.
 
I voted B. Lots of style and flavor, but in the end, it turns into yet another bang-blam-bloom battle, revolving around yet another magic doohickey. So this whole cinematic saga is turning into one big Power Rangers punch-up, is it? Er, yay?

Also: of the ten MCU movies to date, ten have starred straight male white leads (all of whom except Thor are Americans, though even he speaks with a much more Yank-ish accent than his father and brother) . True, the franchise has a solid number of great other-than-white supporting characters in Rhodes, Fury, and that Falcon guy, plus May and Skye, and in this movie, Gamora, Drax, Rocket and Groot are all other-than-white to varying degrees, depending on how you count the ethnicty of voice actors, and The Collector isn't Anglo. Still, as good as Pratt was, it could have been nice to see a Hispanic or Asian or something lead. Or, y'know, a woman? A short-haired woman to pair up with the long-haired Gamora, maybe?

I'm not the biggest PC stickler for mandatory diversity casting, but I've been watching Glee this year, which, apart from its standard-TV levels of ethnic diversity, has several gay/bi characters of both genders in various stages of out-ness, plus a trans person, plus several characters with physical and/or mental disabilities. True, it doesn't have any aliens or sentient plants (yet), but it is pretty impressively diverse. So, as weird and wacky as the universe of Guardians is, I was kind of annoyed when John C. Reilly went home to his pink female partner instead of a pink male one. And why couldn't Drax have spoken of a lost gender-ambiguous "spouse" rather than specifying "wife"? AFAIK, apart from Justin Hammer, who has a male squeeze while in prison (har, har) not one MCU character has been indicated as other than straight (Victoria Hand's preferences weren't specified). Kinda deflates the balloon of cosmic weirdness and imaginative storytelling when pretty much everyone, including minor side characters, are hetero, and all the main heroes are white male Anglos, is all.
 
I voted B. Lots of style and flavor, but in the end, it turns into yet another bang-blam-bloom battle, revolving around yet another magic doohickey. So this whole cinematic saga is turning into one big Power Rangers punch-up, is it? Er, yay?

Also: of the ten MCU movies to date, ten have starred straight male white leads (all of whom except Thor are Americans, though even he speaks with a much more Yank-ish accent than his father and brother) . True, the franchise has a solid number of great other-than-white supporting characters in Rhodes, Fury, and that Falcon guy, plus May and Skye, and in this movie, Gamora, Drax, Rocket and Groot are all other-than-white to varying degrees, depending on how you count the ethnicty of voice actors, and The Collector isn't Anglo. Still, as good as Pratt was, it could have been nice to see a Hispanic or Asian or something lead. Or, y'know, a woman? A short-haired woman to pair up with the long-haired Gamora, maybe?

I'm not the biggest PC stickler for mandatory diversity casting, but I've been watching Glee this year, which, apart from its standard-TV levels of ethnic diversity, has several gay/bi characters of both genders in various stages of out-ness, plus a trans person, plus several characters with physical and/or mental disabilities. True, it doesn't have any aliens or sentient plants (yet), but it is pretty impressively diverse. So, as weird and wacky as the universe of Guardians is, I was kind of annoyed when John C. Reilly went home to his pink female partner instead of a pink male one. And why couldn't Drax have spoken of a lost gender-ambiguous "spouse" rather than specifying "wife"? AFAIK, apart from Justin Hammer, who has a male squeeze while in prison (har, har) not one MCU character has been indicated as other than straight (Victoria Hand's preferences weren't specified). Kinda deflates the balloon of cosmic weirdness and imaginative storytelling when pretty much everyone, including minor side characters, are hetero, and all the main heroes are white male Anglos, is all.


female lead comic book movies haven't tended to do well-see "supergirl," "elektra," or "catwoman." I don't think it's about reluctance it's just a bottom-line driven thing.
 
Yeah, it's because those were female comic-book characters. That's why those movies tanked. Didn't have anything to do with the story, acting, or writing at all.
 
Might help if those films didn't mostly suck. Just look at all the female lead films that have done very well of late.
 
Honestly with all the blue and green and multi-colored aliens in the movie, and the breakneck pace of the story, the last thing I was really focused on was the race of the actors.
 
female lead comic book movies haven't tended to do well-see "supergirl," "elektra," or "catwoman." I don't think it's about reluctance it's just a bottom-line driven thing.

You realize all of those movies just plain sucked, regardless of the gender of the main character, right?
 
Ah, good catch. Any idea on who the beings were who attempted to join together to contain the stones? Seems to me, that they could have been Celestials, as well.
Don't think anyone addressed this, but my impression was the Elders of the Universe. In the comics they've used the stones, and the Collector is one of them.

How about this for a Marvel No-Prize? He actually said "I am Groot" but at that moment they all understood what he meant as Rocket did throughout.
My impression of Rocket's translations of Groot's speech is that he didn't really "understand" Groot at all, he was just projecting his own conscience onto Groot.

I thought this was six out of ten - good but not amazing but nice to see a cameo from Hyperion.

I must've completely missed it. Where was the Hyperion cameo?


He's in a collector cage - you see his red cape and blond hair -
The thing I thought was interesting/strange - Drax wasn't much of a destroyer.

And just as many people think that's Beta Ray Bill. I think there a bunch of people wanting to find easter eggs so bad that they're inventing them out of the slightest tiny little blurry object.
If it's a red cape, Beta Ray Bill is more likely, as Hyperion classically had a gold cape. I didn't see this, and I'd be kicking myself if I missed a Hyperion appearance.

Red cape and blond hair could also be...Adam Warlock.

There's nothing in the movie really to indicate either way that he has never been back to Earth. I find it hard to believe he's never stopped back even briefly, though. It doesn't appear to be hard. Yondu was able to find it easy enough, and Rocket calls Peter "Humie" at one point, indicating that the galactic civilization at large is familiar with humans. In the comics Star Lord gets back to Earth often enough. He just prefers it in space, and I can't say that I blame him.
How much in the MCU, though? As of the 2014 Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episode "Yes Men", Sif believed that no extraterrestrials besides Asgardians, Vanir (Hogun), Frost Giants (Loki), Chitauri, and Dark Elves had visited Earth recently, and she's got Heimdall as a source of information on that.

Coulson specifically asked Sif about blue-skinned aliens, and she named several and said that none of those had visited Earth.

As for my opinion of the movie...I'll give it a solid B. I was a little underwhelmed...there was nothing that I found terribly wrong, but nothing I especially liked either. It just didn't quite grab me.
 
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Yeah, it's because those were female comic-book characters. That's why those movies tanked. Didn't have anything to do with the story, acting, or writing at all.

female lead comic book movies haven't tended to do well-see "supergirl," "elektra," or "catwoman." I don't think it's about reluctance it's just a bottom-line driven thing.

You realize all of those movies just plain sucked, regardless of the gender of the main character, right?


yes guys I realized this, but what matters is the perception of the people who green light the productions and the budgets, not what actually caused the failures.
 
How about this for a Marvel No-Prize? He actually said "I am Groot" but at that moment they all understood what he meant as Rocket did throughout.
My impression of Rocket's translations of Groot's speech is that he didn't really "understand" Groot at all, he was just projecting his own conscience onto Groot.

Interesting. In the comics, Rocket couldn't understand him, but Maximus, aka Maximus the Mad, could. He had a full conversation with Groot and was the one who explained why he, after having talked normally in the past, suddenly could only say "I am Groot."




If it's a red cape, Beta Ray Bill is more likely, as Hyperion classically had a gold cape. I didn't see this, and I'd be kicking myself if I missed a Hyperion appearance.

Red cape and blond hair could also be...Adam Warlock.

Except it's widely believed that this:
who-is-adam-warlock-thats-right-the.jpg


is Adam's cocoon. Granted, it could be Her's/Kismet's.
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Saw this again last night with friends who hadn't seen it when I first went. It's just as enjoyable the second time round. I belly-laughed just as much as before and both my friends thought it was great too.
 
Except it's widely believed that this:
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is Adam's cocoon. Granted, it could be Her's/Kismet's.

It's been confirmed that is Adam Warlock's cocoon. Also, while I missed it, the director stated that you see the cocoon broke open during the post credits scene.
 
How about this for a Marvel No-Prize? He actually said "I am Groot" but at that moment they all understood what he meant as Rocket did throughout.
My impression of Rocket's translations of Groot's speech is that he didn't really "understand" Groot at all, he was just projecting his own conscience onto Groot.

Like Luke and R2? :) Could be, still kind of works, maybe they all heard "We are Groot" because that's what they were all feeling/believing at that moment.
 
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