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Gravitational Waves - Updates today!

sojourner said:
Yes, because gravity waves are a recent phenomena. We just happened to come up with a way to detect them around the same time they caused mass whale beachings.

Your idea has some real cause and effect issues.
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So, I wasn't saying that the gravity waves were the cause. I personally think a lot of sea life is getting sick, and being driven from deep water, by settling radiation from Fukushima.

But, the proximity of the two things made me wonder if a biological species could have sensory perception able to feel such vibrations in some way. The way birds and whales feel the magnetic field, or how my inner ears are more sensitive than others so I feel amen process changes in barametric pressure and movement differently than my former coworkers did.

The possiablity exists that some critter out there has evolved a way to feel them even if it hasn't a clue what it is.
 
The radiation from fukushima is literally a drop in the bucket of the world's oceans. It's not "driving sea life from the deep water".

The ability to sense gravity waves would indicate an evolutionary advantage to being able to detect them. If you can figure out how that would be an advantage to a life form here on earth, I would be interested to hear it.
 
Data Holmes said:
...me wonder if a biological species could have sensory perception able to feel such vibrations in some way. The way birds and whales feel the magnetic field...
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Sense a change of a distance of about 1/1000th the diameter of a proton (or 1 billionth of an atom)? And that's for a merging black hole pair. Typical waves are far weaker. Science says I cannot absolutely disprove it. But common sense says, though admittedly often wrong in the course of human superstition, that the liklihood is nil.
 
scotthm said:
Space would vibrate.

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John: "My suitcase... was vibrating?"
TSA: "Nine times out of ten it's an electric razor. But every once in a while... " <looks around> "It's a dildo. Of course, it's company policy never to imply ownership in the event of a dildo. We're instructed to use the indefinite article... always a dildo never... " <stares at him> "...your dildo."
 
A Gravitational Wave Cryptex - One issue that finding gravitational waves does uncover is the constant dispute that Einstein raised regarding velocities of faster than the speed of light. Einstein said that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. Based on gravitational waves being created by two colliding black holes that were at one time each a sun that created light, that light speed is not the fastest velocity able to be achieved. Gravitational waves travel at the speed of light because they come from the same source that light does or a sun. Seeing as how gravitational waves and light both travel at the same velocity I would have to suggest that the gravitational waves are in part caused by light photon's traveling at the speed of light which we all know that light travels in all directions thus creating a force at the speed of light present across the entire Universe at any one moment. But before the Big Bang when suns were not present yet light traveling in all directions at any one moment would not have been present to possibly create gravitational waves in all direction that would create a 3D net like infrastructure. Without the suns being present to create light that would have created gravitational waves traveling at the same velocity as light there would not be any net to restrain an object traveling faster than the speed of light but more importantly the gravitational waves created by a sun would not force heavier atoms that are bound by magnetic and electromagnetic properties that would effect their fields on an object traveling faster than the speed of light.

The object traveling faster than the speed of light would not occupy an infinite point in space due to traveling faster than the speed of light but would simply travel faster between two points within infinity. As the object traveled faster and faster it would encounter more and more elements bound by EM and the magnetic force thus creating a field around the object that would draw like charged elements to it adding to the overall mass of the object that would continue to attract more and more charged elements through the transfer of EM and Magnetic properties of the elements that the object came into contact with. In order to reduce the mass of charged particle build up on the object traveling faster than the speed of light a modulating field around the object of positive and negative properties would need to be present so that no matter which type of charge was encountered that the elements that would create the most mass would be deflected around the object.
 
sojourner said:
The radiation from fukushima is literally a drop in the bucket of the world's oceans. It's not "driving sea life from the deep water".

The ability to sense gravity waves would indicate an evolutionary advantage to being able to detect them. If you can figure out how that would be an advantage to a life form here on earth, I would be interested to hear it.
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Water cools the convection and radiation process. Light from the sun is radiation. Light cannot penetrate to the bottom of the deepest oceans because the light from the sun is cooled the more it penetrates the depths to a point where light no longer penetrates. Yet life still exists. So did the life at the bottom of the ocean exist at a time when there was less water on Earth and the Sun penetrated the oceans to their complete depths or did the life evolve other ways? I would have to think both because there are fish that create their own light to attract to prey. So do the fish remember a time when their world was full of light that slowly reduced and then disappeared where some fish remembering the light evolved theirselves to create their own light that other fish would be attracted to our of remembering that in the light there was safety only to be eaten?
 
Neither of those posts have anything to do with the topic.
  • The first post re-emphasizes your lack of understanding of the Big Bang, the speed of light, and physics ... when it's possible to make sense out of the gibberish at all.
  • The second doesn't even mention gravitational waves.
 
The fact that two things come from the same source does not imply that they're both traveling at the same speed. What a load of gibberish. You were also told not to hijack this thread with your crazy ramblings. You made your own thread for that, use that one.
 
http://www.space.com/32041-gravitational-waves-two-black-holes-one-star.html

Two black holes from one star.

Excuse me...who doesn't know what they are talking about?

Human's are basically a mirror of the processes of the Universe. In most cases a woman will give birth to one child at a time just like a sun would collapse into a single black hole. But when the conditions are correct in both situations twins are born. Twins being born is more rare than a single birth. Just like twin black holes being rare.
 
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The answer is clearly you. And what does that have to do with the post you are responding to?

Human's are basically a mirror of the processes of the Universe. In most cases a woman will give birth to one child at a time just like a sun would collapse into a single black hole. But when the conditions are correct in both situations twins are born. Twins being born is more rare than a single birth. Just like twin black holes being rare.
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New age garbage.
 
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The topic is about gravitational waves. The article also discusses how a sun could have collapsed into two black holes that caused the gravitational waves. Its obvious that none of you even read articles links. You just say what ever is on the top of your head while the rest of the world laughs at you.

Read the article. It comes from Space.com and is part of the Gravitational Wave discussion where two black holes possibly collided and then caused the gravitational waves.

It was Albert Einstein who first predicted that space and time together make up a single cosmic fabric, and that two black holes spinning around each other and merging would not only bend that fabric, but also send ripples through it. - See more at: http://www.space.com/32041-gravitational-waves-two-black-holes-one-star.html#sthash.z2T5mYAO.dpuf
 
Yeah, we read the article. It just has nothing to do with some "told ya so" comment in your previous post. How does the article progress your argument?

And just to clarify, what is the viewpoint you're trying to push?
 
The theory surrounding the possibility of two black holes forming from the same sun is interesting to say the least.

If the theory is proven true and models developed on how a collapsed sun forms into two black holes then perhaps a theory can be developed on how to artificially create gravitational waves that would benefit human space travel.
 
A few questions I have regarding the two black holes merging is this.

Since LIGO was able to detect the gravitational waves would it have been possible to actually see what was taking place inside of the black hole for the first time when the gravitational waves were generated?

Another question I have is would a CMB or WMAP Cold Spot be penetrated by a gravitational wave created from the merging of two black holes?

How do the black holes transfer their mass to become one single black hole?

Last question of the day. How long does the gravitational wave ripple through space time last when two black holes merge?
 
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