Grade 5x09 - "Tracker"

[Hermiod]

I voted "Even a Wraith Won't Feed On It".

They reused Mike Dopud in a very similar role to his Odai Ventrell role in SG-1. They need to have a bit more imagination about casting.

They've just ruined the McKay/Keller storyline. Of course the short, anti-social nerd isn't going to beat the 6'4", muscular action hero. Way to insult your audience there, guys.

 

[Jax]

Average though not a bad one just ok for 42 mins of TV...

Decent plot, good action though I have some issues with it, starting with McKay who we all know is capable in a fight so the writers need to stop him struggling to reload a gun and shooting wildly. I remember seeing him in a episode seriously kick ass when rest of the team were all stunned (season 4 one with Ronan's pals who betray him). The whole triangle thing again needs fixing and fast, Ronan needs to find something better to do with his time.

However SG-A continues to have some of the best action scenes in any show and Keller was great in that fight

 

[Gertch]

Average. It was entertaining and just enough action to keep your interest. The invisible thing was pretty neat but we'll probably never see it again.

 

[rac76]

Nothing special..it was one of the first episodes that I watched this season. Voted average..sometimes I think that the commercials that the Sci-Fi channel play are more interesting than the show.

I just wonder how the movie that they are talking about will tie up everything.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Poor. Not the worst ever, but any episode that can be improved by fast-forwarding the majority of it doesn't deserve a higher rating than that.

On the upside, I whittled this week's SG:A viewing experience down to about 10 minutes, allowing more time for better things (such as obsessively watching my S2 DVDs of Dexter all over again. )

They've just ruined the McKay/Keller storyline. Of course the short, anti-social nerd isn't going to beat the 6'4", muscular action hero.

I got the distinct impression that Ronan only said he was interested in Keller to get a rise out of McKay. Hey at least that would be a unique take on the hokey ole love triangle routine - one of the guys is in it just to fight with the other guy. Which would make sense - Keller just does not seem like Ronan's type.

 

[David cgc]

Last year, she reminded him of his late wife.

 

[Kpnuts]

I watched a classic SG-1 ep earlier today. Janet Fraser featured heavily.

This thread made me compare the characters of Keller with Fraser in my head...

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

I got the distinct impression that Ronan only said he was interested in Keller to get a rise out of McKay. Hey at least that would be a unique take on the hokey ole love triangle routine - one of the guys is in it just to fight with the other guy. Which would make sense - Keller just does not seem like Ronan's type.

I thought something similar. That Ronan was initially speaking the truth that he had no interest. But when he realized Rodney was the one having intentions decided to give him a little incentive to actually do something about it.
If that turns out to be true it will not only be a really clever bit of writing, Ronan would also gain a lot of sympathy points with me and give him a strong push towards being one of the better characters of the show. Which I never expected when they introduced him as a T'ealc clone.

 

[Barbados Slim]

One of the worst examples of why this recycled, hackneyed, poorly written "romance" bullshit of a series needs to be cancelled.

It was so good in the first season!

 

[Hermiod]

They've just ruined the McKay/Keller storyline. Of course the short, anti-social nerd isn't going to beat the 6'4", muscular action hero.

I got the distinct impression that Ronan only said he was interested in Keller to get a rise out of McKay. Hey at least that would be a unique take on the hokey ole love triangle routine - one of the guys is in it just to fight with the other guy. Which would make sense - Keller just does not seem like Ronan's type.

As has been pointed out, Keller reminds Ronon of his late wife.

If it was Ronon trying to make McKay do something about it, then great. That's a nice thing for Ronon to do, but as it appears in the episode it's pretty much saying to the audience (who, let's face it, will probably identify a lot more with McKay than they do Ronon) if you get the girl she'll probably be stolen from you by someone much better looking.

Oh well, at least there's still Jimmy and Chloe to make us feel better about ourselves.

 

[Jax]

One of the worst examples of why this recycled, hackneyed, poorly written "romance" bullshit of a series needs to be cancelled.

It was so good in the first season!

Your holding back, come on

 

[doubleohfive]

As someone said above, "meh."

I'm starting to agree with Temis. Ronon's got the Worf-itis, and is almost the only reason I tune in anymore. I'm also kind of wondering what the writers are planning on doing to wrap up the show now that we know its ending. More filler? Will Kiryk return later on at a crucial juncture with Kolya, Irresponsible dude, Todd, the Replicator chick, and the other "hot" chick who kidnapped Shepard last year (while Woolsey is still in his quarters sipping on merlot in his suit, unseen)?

Watching Atlantis lately, it makes me long for the days when you almost had to have something for all your characters to do every week. It forced the writers to be creative and it kept the audience attentive. Now? Not so much.

They've just ruined the McKay/Keller storyline. Of course the short, anti-social nerd isn't going to beat the 6'4", muscular action hero.

I got the distinct impression that Ronan only said he was interested in Keller to get a rise out of McKay. Hey at least that would be a unique take on the hokey ole love triangle routine - one of the guys is in it just to fight with the other guy. Which would make sense - Keller just does not seem like Ronan's type.

As has been pointed out, Keller reminds Ronon of his late wife.

If it was Ronon trying to make McKay do something about it, then great. That's a nice thing for Ronon to do, but as it appears in the episode it's pretty much saying to the audience (who, let's face it, will probably identify a lot more with McKay than they do Ronon) if you get the girl she'll probably be stolen from you by someone much better looking.

Oh well, at least there's still Jimmy and Chloe to make us feel better about ourselves.

With thinking like this, its no wonder you're single.

 

[Hermiod]

With thinking like this, its no wonder you're single.

You really haven't been paying attention at all, have you ?

 

[Bob The Skutter]

I got the distinct impression that Ronan only said he was interested in Keller to get a rise out of McKay. Hey at least that would be a unique take on the hokey ole love triangle routine - one of the guys is in it just to fight with the other guy. Which would make sense - Keller just does not seem like Ronan's type.

I got a similar feeling, I think it fits with Ronan and McKay's "friendship" that Ronan would do that to try and get him to "fight" for it, then feel better about himself when he "wins".

Yes he said she reminded him of his late wife last year, in a lock down situation they nearly kissed, but momentary attraction in a stressful situation doesn't actually mean he has any real interest in pursuing a relationship.

 

[Hermiod]

I got a similar feeling, I think it fits with Ronan and McKay's "friendship" that Ronan would do that to try and get him to "fight" for it, then feel better about himself when he "wins".

Yes he said she reminded him of his late wife last year, in a lock down situation they nearly kissed, but momentary attraction in a stressful situation doesn't actually mean he has any real interest in pursuing a relationship.

Ronon wasn't exactly nice to Rodney throughout the entire episode, so from a storytelling perspective the idea that he's giving Rodney a kick to make him do something about his feelings doesn't quite work. He spends the entire episode complaining that Rodney couldn't survive without his gadgets and is somehow not a real man because of it and then does something nice for him ? Nah.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

I got a similar feeling, I think it fits with Ronan and McKay's "friendship" that Ronan would do that to try and get him to "fight" for it, then feel better about himself when he "wins".

Yes he said she reminded him of his late wife last year, in a lock down situation they nearly kissed, but momentary attraction in a stressful situation doesn't actually mean he has any real interest in pursuing a relationship.

Ronon wasn't exactly nice to Rodney throughout the entire episode, so from a storytelling perspective the idea that he's giving Rodney a kick to make him do something about his feelings doesn't quite work. He spends the entire episode complaining that Rodney couldn't survive without his gadgets and is somehow not a real man because of it and then does something nice for him ? Nah.

Ronan is always like that with Rodney, but there have been a couple of times, Shrine for example, where his friendship with Rodney does shine through. Ronan was more bothered that Rodney was slowing him down and damaging their chances of catching up with them, hence the looking down on him, even more than usual.
Don't you ever get annoyed at you friends, when they're just doing something that is so them, but in a certain situation it is bloody annoying?

Anyway, I'm not gonna argue that that was their intention, the writing doesn't really support it without reading more in to it. Perhaps I'd just rather see it that way, because that way it seems a slightly better episode.

 

[Hermiod]

^That's the problem, though - Ronon only very rarely treats McKay like he likes him. He's not the only one who does it. It's only in "The Shrine" and "The Tao of Rodney" that people treated him decently and in both cases it was because he was dying.

Sheppard clearly liked the dumbed down Rodney that sat on the pier and drank beer with him a lot more. They can't even bring themselves to call him by his first name most of the time. It's always "McKay" or worse "Doctor McKay".

In fact, the only character who actually acts like his friend is Beckett.

(Oh, and then there was Sheppard's Fantastic Four comment - you think you're Reed Richards ? Really ?)

 

[Kpnuts]

After the way McKay acted for a good 2-3 years, whining, complaining, shouting, and being an arrogant wuss with no social skills whatsoever... I'm not surprised people get the impression the other characters aren't good friends with him.

Thank god the writer's woke up and realised that's not what we call a likeable character.

 

[Hermiod]

After the way McKay acted for a good 2-3 years, whining, complaining, shouting, and being an arrogant wuss with no social skills whatsoever... I'm not surprised people get the impression the other characters aren't good friends with him.

Thank god the writer's woke up and realised that's not what we call a likeable character.

I'd call waving citrus fruit in the face of someone you know has a potentially fatal allergy to it a lot worse than anything McKay ever did.

They were calling him names and generally treating him badly from "Rising" onwards. They gave him no reason to treat them any better than he had.

 

[Hanover Fiste]

Thumbs up to the face-off with another "runner" bad-ass, and his eventual heroic sacrifice.

Thumbs down to the paint-by-numbers love triangle bullshit.