Miracle is the name of their starship.
Give Nero credit!
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Miracle is the name of their starship.
Once while on jury duty, the detective aiding the prosecutor gave me a good tip: "Criminals are stupid," he said.
Apparently, hardly any of them are like Professor Moriarity (the original).
But I did like Nero; Bana did a good job, and I agree with others that he was sympathetic. When he died, I felt badly for him.
Apparently, hardly any of them are like Professor Moriarity (the original).
But I did like Nero; Bana did a good job, and I agree with others that he was sympathetic. When he died, I felt badly for him.
I've seen a lot of people complain that Nero didn't go after the Hobus star, but targeted the Federation instead.
Laying aside his grief-driven madness, who's to say he wasn't going to go after the Hobus star once he'd taken his revenge? After all, it's got another, what, 100 years yet? Meanwhile he can be an independent player and not have the Empire blamed for his actions, thus "punishing" the Federation and Vulcan sufficiently, then fixing the Hobus problem.
Laying aside his grief-driven madness, who's to say he wasn't going to go after the Hobus star once he'd taken his revenge? After all, it's got another, what, 100 years yet? Meanwhile he can be an independent player and not have the Empire blamed for his actions, thus "punishing" the Federation and Vulcan sufficiently, then fixing the Hobus problem.
Meanwhile Nero sepnt 25 years apparentally doing nothing just waiting for Red Matter so that he could suck planets into a black hole, even though with Narada's armament, he could probably have laid waste to the planets and wiped out all life on them.
And even when he had the Red Matter he wasted time drilling to the centre and detonated the Red Matter there, despite the fact that detonating Red Matter on the planet's surface should have had a similar result.
I thought Nero was pretty cool. I kind of liked how he answered the Enterprise's hails... it wasn't threatening or anything like that, most of the time he seemed to just say "hello" or something like that... lol
Giving guys like Nero credit is what got us into this recession to begin with.
That would be great if I had been defending Nero in that post instead of just pointing out that Soran was written pretty nonsensically as well.
But since you brought it up, I'll make the same point again paraphrasing you...
Meanwhile Soran spent 78 years apparently doing nothing just waiting for trilithium so that he could blow up stars, even though with a shuttle and a space suit he could have jumped into the Nexus when it was deciding whether it was capable of flying at huge multiples of warp or about 60 MPH.
And even when trilithium is a byproduct of starship warp drives (despite Riker forgetting that so Worf couild explain trilithium to the audience), Soran wasted time stealing it from the Romulans, despite the fact that getting it from the Klingons or a ship of his own should have had a similar result.
Now, I could find ways of explaining Soran's seemingly bizarre actions, or I could just dismiss it outright like you have done with Nero. Which would you prefer?
In the case of Nero, while his weapons were certainly powerful compared to Klingon and Federation ships of the period, I seriously doubt he could have successfully carried out a conventional campaign against the Federation that would have "laid waste" to multiple planets. First off, he wouldn't have had the defense codes provided by Pike, so everyone would have known where he was and would have brought the full brunt of the fleet to bear. Secondly, the Kelvin was able to temporarily disable the Narada by ramming it, and eventually, after enough losses, Starfleet too would have realized that autopiloting vessels to crash into the Narada (or even better, detonating their warp cores in the process) would have been a successful tactic.
Perhaps the reason Nero drilled to the center of Vulcan was so the entire planet would be sucked into the hole evenly instead of breaking up in the process, perhaps allowing people on the opposite side more time to escape. Likewise, the Red Matter black holes seemed to have some kind of odd time limit before they winked out of existence, so it's possible that part of the planet may have survived (obviously not as a habitable world anymore, but not as satisfying to Nero as being completely removed).
