Ghostbusters 2016: Talk about the movie(s).

[Saul]

Anyone seen new TV spots featuring

Spoiler: big spoiler that you'll probably guess

Mr Stay Puff showing up. Looks like a float rather than the actual Mr. Puff

?

I'd rather have avoided that particular spoiler as it's something I would have gotten a kick out of.

Could I suggest a 3rd group - those who simply want some significant respect to the past. The Flash TV show would be an excellent example of that -- while a reimagining -- they have done a great job of recalling the 90's show without it being a direct sequel. Every bit of news that was related got positive buzz, even if the actors might have been used differently.

I think most wouldn't have a problem with it being all female... but the original lent itself such that a group opening a new franchise in a city other than New York would've worked easily.. and then offer appearances, say Ernie Hudson being promoted to "VP of Franchises" or some excuse where we see him, but doesn't have to be a major part of the film.

We can suggest as many groups as we like. But it seems unfair to place people in categories for having an opinion on something. This isn't politics. It's a movie. There are people who like it for it's own merits. There are people, including women, who don't like the idea of female Ghostbusters. There are people who don't like reboots. There are people who couldn't give a toss either way.

 

[Tosk]

Anyone seen new TV spots featuring

Spoiler: big spoiler that you'll probably guess

Mr Stay Puff showing up. Looks like a float rather than the actual Mr. Puff

?

Spoiler

If it's a big white thing with a red bowtie, that's not Mr. Stay Puft. I'd tell you what it actually is, but that'd be more of a spoiler. (One that the toys give away.)

 

[CRM-114]

Listening to the new Fall Out Boy/Missy Elliot version of the Ghostbusters theme. Not as bad as I thought it would be, but it's no good either. It starts out sounding like a bad Oingo Boingo cover, then it just turns douchy from there.

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Okay, this is turning into an endurance test.

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They keep repeating the phrase, "I'm not afraid!" If I were the producers of this flick, I'd be afraid. If this song is any indication of the final movie, whoa Nellie, this movie is going to be obnoxious.

 

[Set Harth]

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

 

[JD]

I just listened to about half of the song, and it was OK. Definitely liked the two songs for Suicide Squad better. I think I would have rather just seen them do an entirely new song than remake the classic original theme song.

 

[ichab]

I just listened to about half of the song, and it was OK. Definitely liked the two songs for Suicide Squad better. I think I would have rather just seen them do an entirely new song than remake the classic original theme song.

They're already remaking a classic movie instead of making a new one so might as well go all the way in the butchering of the brand.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

We can suggest as many groups as we like. But it seems unfair to place people in categories for having an opinion on something. This isn't politics. It's a movie.

Those with a never-ending agenda turn it into politics to either force their view as "one for all," or silence anyone "daring" to *gasp* have their own ideas on any subject.

There are people who like it for it's own merits. There are people, including women, who don't like the idea of female Ghostbusters. There are people who don't like reboots. There are people who couldn't give a toss either way.

You say that--and its true, but if you see the world through the agenda, and largely manufactured grievances which are inapplicable to this simple comedy film, then anyone "opposing" it must be a misogynistic animal trying to keep women in positions of inferiority. Do not dare suggest that this reboot is exactly what's wrong with the film business of the past 20 years, where reboots, mining old movies, live and animated TV series were unjustified, lacking any creative purpose and thought manipulating fanbase emotions was the route to an easy profit. No, any criticism just has to be some sort of Donald Trump army "hatin' wimmin."

 

[Marsden]

I think most wouldn't have a problem with it being all female... but the original lent itself such that a group opening a new franchise in a city other than New York would've worked easily.. and then offer appearances, say Ernie Hudson being promoted to "VP of Franchises" or some excuse where we see him, but doesn't have to be a major part of the film.

That sounds nice to me. I'm wondering if the reason they didn't do something like that is because they are going to be covering so much of the same ground that would make their script not work. A franchise states that it's an established thing and these people are discovering everything anew again.

 

[Csalem]

I am not a fan of that song. I listened all the way through hoping we would get the remix tune as used in the trailers but it was not to be, I really love the trailer music.

 

[LJones41]

I couldn't care less whether the new "GHOSTBUSTERS" has all-female leads or not. I don't see why anyone should make a big deal about it. I don't care whether the Missy Elliot video is entertaining or not. Nor do I care whether the trailer is entertaining or not.

It all boils down to whether or not I will end up enjoying the movie. I'm willing to give it a chance and see how it will turn out.

 

[Owain Taggart]

That sounds nice to me. I'm wondering if the reason they didn't do something like that is because they are going to be covering so much of the same ground that would make their script not work. A franchise states that it's an established thing and these people are discovering everything anew again.

The way to get around that is by saying that we have a new group are rookies experiencing things for the first time. It's not terribly hard to make it work, and is essentially a way to introduce new viewers to the concepts without it being too much of a retread. Even the 2009 videogame featured a rookie with some of the basics being taught to him. So, I don't see why it couldn't work. And I'm assuming that in their line of work, there'd always be new rookies anyways; either they get terrified, slimed, and realize it's not for them and leave, and you'd get a lot of employee turnover. Not to mention, that we can't assume anyone's automatically a ghostbuster as there would likely be some training to go along with it. You can't just trust anyone to handle a proton pack without some training, for example.

 

[Greg Cox]

FYI: the novelization by my friend Nancy Holder goes on sale today.

 

[Timby]

That sounds nice to me. I'm wondering if the reason they didn't do something like that is because they are going to be covering so much of the same ground that would make their script not work. A franchise states that it's an established thing and these people are discovering everything anew again.

That would still be a sequel, which Sony was legally prohibited from making.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

That would still be a sequel, which Sony was legally prohibited from making.

I cannot find this anywhere on the internet. It seems incredibly short-sighted that they'd allow that loophole in their contracts. Then after Sony uses this loophole they all agree including Murray to be in the movie? You seem to be a huge fan so it seems there'd be something to this but is there anything out there to corroborate this loophole? I can find stuff that says they needed everyone's approval to make another Ghostbusters and I can see that Sony wanted to legally force Murray to participate but I don't see where they could get around it by doing a reboot.

 

[Timby]

The language in the contracts signed in 1988 stipulated that no sequel could be made without the sign-off from Reitman, Ramis, Murray and Aykroyd. It didn't prohibit Sony from doing a remake, which is the route they took after realizing that suing Murray to get him out of the way for GB3 was a pretty bad PR look. They didn't explore suing Murray to force his participation, they thought they had a legal route to saying he had abrogated that contract by refusing to read the scripts.

Edit: That contractual stipulation was first hinted at in Starlog in 1992, when Columbia first started making noise about GB3, clarified in Cinefex, and made absolutely certain in the Sony hack.

 

[Greg Cox]

And I see that Tor just posted an excerpt from the novelization.

http://torforgeblog.com/2016/06/28/sneak-peek-ghostbusters-by-nancy-holder/

 

[Mr. Adventure]

And I see that Tor just posted an excerpt from the novelization.

http://torforgeblog.com/2016/06/28/sneak-peek-ghostbusters-by-nancy-holder/

It takes some chutzpah to start with "It was a dark and stormy night.".

 

[Shaka Zulu]

Lady fans of the new movie are angry at designers for not being able to dress Leslie Jones for the premiere, say it's their fault for not designing for all body types (thus, they're sexist):

Stylists Blame Ghostbusters‘ Leslie Jones for Clothes Not Fitting Her, Ignore Fashion Industry Biases

Personally, if I were getting a new suit, I would work it out with a tailor for a month or so before the premiere so that I could get the exact fitting I want, or go to a store that fits large sized people; I would not blame it all on designers because they generally make clothing for average sized people. But that's just me.

They keep repeating the phrase, "I'm not afraid!" If I were the producers of this flick, I'd be afraid. If this song is any indication of the final movie, whoa Nellie, this movie is going to be obnoxious.

FWIW, the men in the original movie were scared a lot too, and that also happened a lot in the TV show (Hasbro made action figures of the characters having scared reactions as Wave 2.) Most likely, the ladies here will get over their initial fears, then rally and catch the ghosts confidently.

 

[Aldo]

I had those figures. In fact I never had the original figures, maybe it's because the original figures were hard to find, but I did have the scaredy cat figures along with Ecto-1 and Highway Haunter.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Lady fans of the new movie are angry at designers for not being able to dress Leslie Jones for the premiere, say it's their fault for not designing for all body types (thus, they're sexist):

Stylists Blame Ghostbusters‘ Leslie Jones for Clothes Not Fitting Her, Ignore Fashion Industry Biases

Personally, if I were getting a new suit, I would work it out with a tailor for a month or so before the premiere so that I could get the exact fitting I want, or go to a store that fits large sized people; I would not blame it all on designers because they generally make clothing for average sized people. But that's just me.

Except those designers don't make clothes for average sized people. They make clothes for walking toothpicks. It's a completely fair point that their work has become ridiculous in the extreme.