Generations - A few things I noticed

[Airwolf]

Hello all! Been a viewer of this board for a while and thought I'd join up today! I just wanted to run a few things I noticed about "Star Trek: Generations" by everyone to see what you thought about them or if you noticed them before.

Firstly, the beginning of the crash scene immediately after the Warp Core breach seems a bit off. I'm referring to Worf getting up from the same position at least twice while Riker shouts "Report!" only to see him at the other end of the Tactical Station standing up before Data's 'colorful metaphor.'

Then, I had asked myself why Sickbay was being evacuated, as it's located in the Saucer Section. The only conclusion I could come up with was that, since it was in the lower part of the Saucer Section, it should be evacuated because of the damage that area would sustain from the impact and drag out of the crash.

Finally, something that kinda bugged and amused me at the same time. Before the Saucer Section stops, everyone is staring intensely at the Viewscreen while they wait for the big halt... everyone except for the guy sitting to Riker's left who's head seems to be flailing about. Were the Interial Dampeners in his seat malfunctioning?

Other than that, I do enjoy watching Generations.

 

[Timo]

Just random speculation: the sickbay being evacuated might have been one of the secondary hull ones. That section is bound to have such facilities, too...

Also note the guy who attempts to do the "Yesssh!" gesture half a second before Data, and aborts it halfway through when he realizes he's upstaging a main character...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Shazam!]

Also note the guy who attempts to do the "Yesssh!" gesture half a second before Data, and aborts it halfway through when he realizes he's upstaging a main character...

Yeah, that bit rules.

 

[Timo]

It sort of works in context, though: the guy could be shocked out of his wits when Data out of all, umm, people does the up yours thing, and abort his own for that reason.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Cyke101]

Also note the guy who attempts to do the "Yesssh!" gesture half a second before Data, and aborts it halfway through when he realizes he's upstaging a main character...

Yeah, that bit rules.

Seconded. Out of all the flubs in all the Trek movies, that's probably the one I look forward to the most.

 

[sbk1234]

The thing that really bothers me is when the saucer stopps sliding on the ground of the planet, the conn and ops stations go sliding across the deck and slam into the wall/viewer. Shouldn't those units actually be ATTACHED to the floor, and not just sitting there?!

 

[Smellincoffee]

The thing that really bothers me is when the saucer stopps sliding on the ground of the planet, the conn and ops stations go sliding across the deck and slam into the wall/viewer. Shouldn't those units actually be ATTACHED to the floor, and not just sitting there?!

Well, the inertial dampeners keep them in place. And when, if ever, have you seen inertial dampeners fail?

 

[Cyke101]

The thing that really bothers me is when the saucer stopps sliding on the ground of the planet, the conn and ops stations go sliding across the deck and slam into the wall/viewer. Shouldn't those units actually be ATTACHED to the floor, and not just sitting there?!

One would think that, but I could have sworn that, in my youth, the two stations were often put in different-yet-subtle positions constantly in the first season, albeit off by a mere few inches each time. I could also be imagining this, but my brother and I would joke about how they were too close/too far/too forward to each other at times.

Edit: Ah, here's a video of the crash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35brUCRkgIk

@the 7:14ish mark: In the lab when the equipment falls on a crewman in a lab coat: Who is this guy and why is he running experiments during a crash?

On a side note, not long after that, Data is seen cradling Troi, but in a small but nice touch, he's seen protecting her from a falling girder, which harmlessly bounces off his body. Blink and you'll miss it, but it's those small touches that remind us of Data's superhuman abilities.

 

[Timo]

One would think that, but I could have sworn that, in my youth, the two stations were often put in different-yet-subtle positions constantly in the first season, albeit off by a mere few inches each time.

...And they moved a lot between the pilot episode and the regular run.

Which only makes sense. Why is there this huge flat floor there in front of the command chairs? Why, to facilitate moving the workstations to whichever position best serves each mission. Sometimes they might both be shoved to one side to give room for a strategic planning table, say. Or two more might be added, or perhaps seating for dignitaries or flag officers or observers. The workstations might move on the carpet on little antigravs, much like Mark Jameison's chair or Crusher's futuro-stretchers - and lock in place with antigravs, too. But when there's a really severe crash, there may also be a power failure in the antigravs. At that point, it doesn't really matter any more...

Who is this guy and why is he running experiments during a crash?

Trying to save his thesis work, perhaps...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Captain Rob]

The thing that really bothers me is when the saucer stopps sliding on the ground of the planet, the conn and ops stations go sliding across the deck and slam into the wall/viewer. Shouldn't those units actually be ATTACHED to the floor, and not just sitting there?!

Well, the inertial dampeners keep them in place. And when, if ever, have you seen inertial dampeners fail?

How about every episode when the ship's attacked or hit by some phenomenom. Ah ... sarcasm.

 

[Verteron]

Also note the guy who attempts to do the "Yesssh!" gesture half a second before Data, and aborts it halfway through when he realizes he's upstaging a main character...

Yeah, that bit rules.

Seconded. Out of all the flubs in all the Trek movies, that's probably the one I look forward to the most.

That's hilarious - I went back and rewatched the crash scene just to see that, and it really does play out like you say. Never noticed that before but

 

[Jon1701]

I like how the way no-one stops to help the kids except Geordi and his assistant. Everyone just runs past and leaves a bunch a kids alone in the coridoor, frightened, alone. To die.

Isnt the ship is about to blow up???

"Where was your evolved sensibility, then?"

 

[Airwolf]

Something else I noticed. If you go to 7:10 of the previously posted YouTube clip of the crash sequence, you'll see all those Medical personnel trying to keep a hold of the patients... except for one at the far right of the screen just standing there.

 

[Trekker4747]

I had always assumed Crusher was evacuating the Stardrive Section's branch of sickbay. There has to be one, infact we've been told there's one. So that's possible.

I always thought that the CONN/OPS stations broke and slid forward too but it seems that's just a trick of the way the scene is shot. Similar to how if you're stopped at a light on a hill and the car next to you starts moving, out of the side of your eye you may think you're moving and then try and to slam on your break, which you're already pressing.

So it just looks that way from the way the director was trying to give the impression of this huge mass moving at high speed coming to a stop.

I love the bit with the guy about to do the "Yes!" gesture too. I think the extra was just telegraphing the scene after many hours of practice/takes.

It's funny to me how the buttons Data needs to press on the CONN station to do his job maches, nicely, with the "Lifeforms" song he sings including a nice musical little tone at the end of the song.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

Yeah, that bit rules.

Seconded. Out of all the flubs in all the Trek movies, that's probably the one I look forward to the most.

That's hilarious - I went back and rewatched the crash scene just to see that, and it really does play out like you say. Never noticed that before but

Easily explained as, in the Trek-verse, the one guy was trying not to perform conduct unbecoming of a Starfleet officer... Then Data did it. XD