General Trek Questions and Observations

[gweeps]

I like Q but why oh why did he have to belittle O'Brien?

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[fireproof78]

Plus there's the time period from the last movie to now, with a follow on movie uncertain. Star Trek is in existance, but more than that?

Does it need more than that?

 

[gweeps]

I like how almost every time we see the Borg they're tweaked a bit more.

 

[gweeps]

I gotta say, the way most of live Trek is done these days, I'm kinda glad there's been no DS9 rehash series.

 

[fireproof78]

I gotta say, the way most of live Trek is done these days, I'm kinda glad there's been no DS9 rehash series.

It's a guarantee to not satisfy the die hard Niner fans.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

I hope to see Picard bump into O'Brien from time to time.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Hard to say going strong without numbers on the various series.

The only important number is one we do know.

5.

There’s no way you get 5 series from one franchise being made concurrently if the franchise is not doing well.

 

[gweeps]

I guess shorter seasons plays into the fact of 6 shows since 2017.

 

[Kilana2]

I hope to see Picard bump into O'Brien from time to time.

If not, we could open a `Colm Meaney didn't return´thread in the PIC forum. I'd hate a O'Brien recasting.....

 

[Richard S. Ta]

I guess shorter seasons plays into the fact of 6 shows since 2017.

Short seasons is what every 'prestige' show does these days. Even in it's time, DSC Season 1 felt unusually long to me. 10-12 seems to be the range for shows nowadays, with some shorter shows doing 4-6...

The days of 26 episodes of anything a year (excepting soaps and... the news) is almost unheard of now.

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

Short seasons is what every 'prestige' show does these days. Even in it's time, DSC Season 1 felt unusually long to me. 10-12 seems to be the range for shows nowadays, with some shorter shows doing 4-6...

The days of 26 episodes of anything a year (excepting soaps and... the news) is almost unheard of now.

True! While some network shows have kept the 19-23 episode count, more and more are shifting to shorter seasons as well in order to have more series on the schedule, and provide them with year round new programming, not unlike the current output of Trek.

10 episodes isn’t so bad, and there’s so much great television right now, there’s always new stuff to explore.

 

[gweeps]

It's just amazing how it took nearly 40 years to get 6 series (TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT + 10 movies) and 5 years to get 6 series (DISC, ST, PIC, LD, PRO and SNW + 3 movies).

1966-2005 = 716 episodes
&
2017-present = 115 episodes

So, more shows in less time, but also less content overall. But I guess everything is more expensive, especially if you're a network trying to have a bunch of series to choose from.

 

[DesolationGod]

It's just amazing how it took nearly 40 years to get 6 series (TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT + 10 movies) and 5 years to get 6 series (DISC, ST, PIC, LD, PRO and SNW + 3 movies).

1966-2005 = 716 episodes
&
2017-present = 115 episodes

So, more shows in less time, but also less content overall. But I guess everything is more expensive, especially if you're a network trying to have a bunch of series to choose from.

well and also many shows and networks have moved away from 26 episode seasons like in the past, these days its usually half that or less

 

[gweeps]

Had a dream inspired by recently rewatching a Law & Order episode about killer children (S10E2 'Killerz') and TOS' 'And the Children Shall Lead'.

When I awoke, I interrupted a young Ferengi from obliterating a Klingon ship or something like that.

 

[The Rock]

I really wish the Enterprise-D had survived until Nemesis. The Enterprise-D getting destroyed in the battle against Shinzon would've been a fantastic and worthy way for her to go out. I imagine Picard would've found a way to use her as a weapon against Shinzon's ship, thereby sacrificing the Enterprise to stop Shinzon. Perhaps Data would've been the only one to stay behind to sacrifice himself with the ship. In my mind I can picture Data looking around the evacuated Enterprise-D bridge one final time before he dies and then cracking a small smile (without the emotion chip, showing that in his final moment of his life he was able to expand beyond his programming and experience real emotion). Then in the final shot of the movie we would've seen the Enterprise-E being built.

 

[gweeps]

I really wish the Enterprise-D had survived until Nemesis. The Enterprise-D getting destroyed in the battle against Shinzon would've been a fantastic and worthy way for her to go out. I imagine Picard would've found a way to use her as a weapon against Shinzon's ship, thereby sacrificing the Enterprise to stop Shinzon. Perhaps Data would've been the only one to stay behind to sacrifice himself with the ship. In my mind I can picture Data looking around the evacuated Enterprise-D bridge one final time before he dies and then cracking a small smile (without the emotion chip, showing that in his final moment of his life he was able to expand beyond his programming and experience real emotion). Then in the final shot of the movie we would've seen the Enterprise-E being built.

Hell, they still could've done this with the Enterprise-E. Nemesis was in many ways a retread of WoK for me, so why not swipe from another previous Trek movie?

 

[gweeps]

Somebody should do an elimination game with these.

Star Trek: Fan Collectives episodes on DVD (2006-2008)

Enterprise: "Broken Bow"
Enterprise: "In a Mirror, Darkly"
Enterprise: "In a Mirror, Darkly, Part II"
Enterprise: "Regeneration"
Enterprise: “E²”
Enterprise: “First Flight”
Enterprise: “Judgement”
Enterprise: “These Are the Voyages…”
Enterprise: “Twilight”

The Original Series: "Errand of Mercy"
The Original Series: "The Trouble with Tribbles"
The Original Series: "Mirror, Mirror"
The Original Series: "The Alternative Factor"
The Original Series: "The Enemy Within"
The Original Series: "Turnabout Intruder"
The Original Series: "The Enterprise Incident"
The Original Series: "Balance of Terror"
The Original Series: "Tomorrow is Yesterday"
The Original Series: "The City on the Edge of Forever"

The Next Generation: "A Matter of Honor"
The Next Generation: "Sins of the Father"
The Next Generation: "Redemption"
The Next Generation: "Redemption, Part II"
The Next Generation: "Deja Q"
The Next Generation: "Qpid"
The Next Generation: "True Q"
The Next Generation: "Encounter at Farpoint"
The Next Generation: "Hide and Q
The Next Generation: "I Borg"
The Next Generation: "Descent"
The Next Generation: "Descent, Part II"
The Next Generation: "In Theory"
The Next Generation: "Tapestry"
The Next Generation: "Q Who"
The Next Generation: "The Best of Both Worlds"
The Next Generation: "The Best of Both Worlds, Part II"
The Next Generation: "Parallels"
The Next Generation: "Frame of Mind"
The Next Generation: "Yesterday's Enterprise"
The Next Generation: "Cause and Effect"
The Next Generation: "Time's Arrow"
The Next Generation: "Time's Arrow, Part II"
The Next Generation: "All Good Things..."
The Next Generation: "Chain of Command"
The Next Generation: “Chain of Command, Part II
The Next Generation: "Darmok"
The Next Generation: “The Inner Light”

Deep Space Nine: "Crossover"
Deep Space Nine: "Through the Looking Glass"
Deep Space Nine: "Shattered Mirror"
Deep Space Nine: "What You Leave Behind"
Deep Space Nine: "Far Beyond the Stars"
Deep Space Nine: "In the Pale Moonlight"
Deep Space Nine: "Little Green Men"
Deep Space Nine: "Trials and Tribble-ations"
Deep Space Nine: "Q-Less"
Deep Space Nine: "The Way of the Warrior"
Deep Space Nine: "The Sword of Kahless"
Deep Space Nine: “The Visitor”

Voyager: "Barge of the Dead"
Voyager: "Death Wish"
Voyager: "The Q and the Grey"
Voyager: "Q2"
Voyager: "Scorpion"
Voyager: "Scorpion, Part II"
Voyager: "Drone"
Voyager: "Dark Frontier"
Voyager: "Shattered"
Voyager: "Unimatrix Zero"
Voyager: "Unimatrix Zero, Part II"
Voyager: "Endgame"
Voyager: "Counterpoint"
Voyager: "Year of Hell"
Voyager: "Year of Hell, Part II"
Voyager: “Course: Oblivion”
Voyager: “Flashback”
Voyager: “The Omega Directive”
Voyager: “Timeless”
Voyager: “Before and After”

 

[dupersuper]

It's just amazing how it took nearly 40 years to get 6 series (TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT + 10 movies) and 5 years to get 6 series (DISC, ST, PIC, LD, PRO and SNW + 3 movies).

Well, we didn't get 3 movies in those 5 years.

I really wish the Enterprise-D had survived until Nemesis. The Enterprise-D getting destroyed in the battle against Shinzon would've been a fantastic and worthy way for her to go out.

Would it? Nemesis was horrible...

 

[The Rock]

Would it? Nemesis was horrible...

So was Generations. So if we're gonna have the Ent-D go out, better to go out like a champ than by going out by getting destroyed by an outdated Bird of Prey.

 

[Mojochi]

It's just amazing how it took nearly 40 years to get 6 series (TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT + 10 movies) and 5 years to get 6 series (DISC, ST, PIC, LD, PRO and SNW + 3 movies).

1966-2005 = 716 episodes
&
2017-present = 115 episodes

To be fair, 101 of those in your 1st group were made between 1966 & 1974, 8 years of the 1st generation. The other 615 were made between 1987 & 2004, 17 years of the 2nd generation. (Piggybacking on the 8 years of success of the TOS film franchise)

However, to compare 5 year stretches between the 2nd & 3rd gens... between January 1993 to December 1997 Star Trek released 255 episodes with 3 different shows, actually airing on television in syndication, & not just a single company's content streaming service, & were also into production on the 3rd TNG theatrical film. That imho was as much or more of a content boom & commercial blitz as this current 5 year stretch has been