I liked the hand drawn art in Archer's quarters of the "Enterprise" ships. As for Spock's mother, I think Jane Wyatt had much more class and really did a fine job for the role.
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He most certainly did! It was his idea to link up a "Reed Alert" (that's what Tripp called it - lol) to the weapons to activate before any attack and give Enterprise a chance to fire back or first when there was an attack about to happen.
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So did Lt. nuSulu, Lt. nuUhura, all the other commissioned officers aboard the ship prior to the assignment of the cadets, any fourth year cadet on the ship.
And any pets on the ship.
That's part of what didn't make sense about it. Why didn't they make Spock the captain, especially since he had pretty much just as much to do with "saving the day" as Kirk did.
It's a homo-sapiens only club.
So I watched the original series in reruns when I was a kid, liked it but never became a fanatic. Then watched some of TNG when I was in college but wasn't a can't miss an episode kind of guy after all I had a life to live. So a few months ago I decide I'm going to watch as much Trek as I can while sitting in front of my computer getting things done. Thought I'd share my thoughts about what I've seen so far.
Deepspace 9: Amazing, easily the best Trek since the original. I found myself caring for the characters and wanting the best for them. I liked the stories and though some were schlock many were amazing and the acting was startlingly deep for a Trek show. I hated the alternate universe bit but lived with it. Character progression felt right, and the addition of Worf was great and the death of Jadziah sucked balls especially when I read that they (the directors) got rid of her out of spite (at least that's what I read, that she wanted a bit more free time).
As I said DS9 was easily the best Trek for me so far, all the characters from the doctor to the chief were well written, well acted and deep. I found myself liking the Ferengi, they weren't as big a bunch of A Holes as I though, the Klingons were enjoyable and likable as well. Andrew Robinson as Garak was freaking amazing, just the look in eyes when they got big told the tale. The show really redeemed a lot of the races I didn't have high regard for and Benjamin Sisko is a bad ass Captain, I think second only to Kirk when it comes to baddassery.
Enterprise: Not as bad as many say, the openeing music was ok and I kind of grew to like it. The show felt like it was about 2 characters and everyone else just happened to be there. The Captain was ok, not a bad fellow and I liked how he became a grizzled war vet by the end of the series. I thought Bakula did a good job of showing how the stress of command and all those close calls gave him a severe case of PTSD which they could have introduced into the show but they just danced around how the Captain was acting in the last season.
I really felt like the writers left a lot on the table with the other characters. Dr. Phlox was great, very interesting character but we enever really got to explore his homeworkd much. T'pol was on the screen all the time, Captain archer and T'pol were the primary characters and that never seemed to change to much. It was an ok show with good acting by most accept T'pol whom Jolene Blalock played with far to many emotions showing. If I watched the series of over again I'd see if they had her show more emotions after she was mind melded against her will and that's why she's so emotional or if she just played the character that way.
Lastly Shran the Andorian was the best character, the episodes he was in were almost always the best ones in the series. Great acting, Great writing....
Voyager: I'm half way through this mess......worst Trek ever. The Captain isn't a warship Captain she has the reactions of a garbage scow Captain. Every enemy in the Delta quadrant gets the drop on her and the shields are at 50% before she realizes she might want to shoot back. We're taking fire Captain Janeway! Boom boom, evasive pattern Omega3 (its good for your heart!) boom boom, shields at 50%....then Janeway snaps out of her coma, stand up, adjusts her uniform and slowly asks someone to fire phasers.
It freaking drives me nuts, I hate this Captain, no you sexist pig not because she's a woman, because she doesn't belong in that chair and half the crew knows she's in over her head. Let's travel in a convoy for safety Janeway....nooooo she doesn't need a convoy. Let's not be so trusting, we are alone and so far everyone we meet wants to eat us, absorb us, clone us, or enslave us....noooooo that's not the Federation way.
So far Janeway is the only Captain I'd mutiny against, the freaking hollow Doctor would do a better job.
I'm struggling through the series and already see that Harry Kim is the universes bitch, Tom Paris will hook up with anything that has a heart beat on board, the Doctor is the best character on the ship, Chakotay has his name over pronounced and hates his job, Neelix is the comic relief, Kess is a cutey who is quite talented, and Tuvak is the most Vulcan of Vulcans and Bealana Torres was introduced as a bad ass Klingon but was really a nerd in disguise, at least that character was a different kind of Klingon with more smarts but still fiery.
I'm thinking of self harm if I go back to the death March that is Voyager but I must press on. I've begun breaking it up with episodes of "The IT crowd" from the BBC even though I've seen each one till I can say the lines along with the actors at least I laugh a bit.
Well that's my 10 cents, My opinion and a quarter might get ya a cup of coffee. I'll keep you all up on my Voyager death march, I'm still not to the sexy cyborg chick thrown in to save the show but I'll get their.
Deepspace 9: Amazing, easily the best Trek since the original. I found myself caring for the characters and wanting the best for them. I liked the stories and though some were schlock many were amazing and the acting was startlingly deep for a Trek show. I hated the alternate universe bit but lived with it. Character progression felt right, and the addition of Worf was great and the death of Jadziah sucked balls especially when I read that they (the directors) got rid of her out of spite (at least that's what I read, that she wanted a bit more free time).
As I said DS9 was easily the best Trek for me so far, all the characters from the doctor to the chief were well written, well acted and deep. I found myself liking the Ferengi, they weren't as big a bunch of A Holes as I though, the Klingons were enjoyable and likable as well. Andrew Robinson as Garak was freaking amazing, just the look in eyes when they got big told the tale. The show really redeemed a lot of the races I didn't have high regard for and Benjamin Sisko is a bad ass Captain, I think second only to Kirk when it comes to baddassery.
Enterprise: Not as bad as many say, the openeing music was ok and I kind of grew to like it. The show felt like it was about 2 characters and everyone else just happened to be there. The Captain was ok, not a bad fellow and I liked how he became a grizzled war vet by the end of the series. I thought Bakula did a good job of showing how the stress of command and all those close calls gave him a severe case of PTSD which they could have introduced into the show but they just danced around how the Captain was acting in the last season.
I really felt like the writers left a lot on the table with the other characters. Dr. Phlox was great, very interesting character but we enever really got to explore his homeworkd much. T'pol was on the screen all the time, Captain archer and T'pol were the primary characters and that never seemed to change to much. It was an ok show with good acting by most accept T'pol whom Jolene Blalock played with far to many emotions showing. If I watched the series of over again I'd see if they had her show more emotions after she was mind melded against her will and that's why she's so emotional or if she just played the character that way.
Lastly Shran the Andorian was the best character, the episodes he was in were almost always the best ones in the series. Great acting, Great writing....
Voyager: I'm half way through this mess......worst Trek ever. The Captain isn't a warship Captain she has the reactions of a garbage scow Captain. Every enemy in the Delta quadrant gets the drop on her and the shields are at 50% before she realizes she might want to shoot back. We're taking fire Captain Janeway! Boom boom, evasive pattern Omega3 (its good for your heart!) boom boom, shields at 50%....then Janeway snaps out of her coma, stand up, adjusts her uniform and slowly asks someone to fire phasers.
It freaking drives me nuts, I hate this Captain, no you sexist pig not because she's a woman, because she doesn't belong in that chair and half the crew knows she's in over her head. Let's travel in a convoy for safety Janeway....nooooo she doesn't need a convoy. Let's not be so trusting, we are alone and so far everyone we meet wants to eat us, absorb us, clone us, or enslave us....noooooo that's not the Federation way.
So far Janeway is the only Captain I'd mutiny against, the freaking hollow Doctor would do a better job.
I'm struggling through the series and already see that Harry Kim is the universes bitch, Tom Paris will hook up with anything that has a heart beat on board, the Doctor is the best character on the ship, Chakotay has his name over pronounced and hates his job, Neelix is the comic relief, Kess is a cutey who is quite talented, and Tuvak is the most Vulcan of Vulcans and Bealana Torres was introduced as a bad ass Klingon but was really a nerd in disguise, at least that character was a different kind of Klingon with more smarts but still fiery.
I'm thinking of self harm if I go back to the death March that is Voyager but I must press on. I've begun breaking it up with episodes of "The IT crowd" from the BBC even though I've seen each one till I can say the lines along with the actors at least I laugh a bit.
Well that's my 10 cents, My opinion and a quarter might get ya a cup of coffee. I'll keep you all up on my Voyager death march, I'm still not to the sexy cyborg chick thrown in to save the show but I'll get their.
Liked your reviews of each series. Especially the Enterprise review. I think Shran made a damn good General. What did you think of Cmdr. Tucker, Lt. Reed, Ensign Sato & Ensign Mayweather? I think that the fact that this show kind of showed where some of the new devices came from (stun added to phaser, Red Alert with auto weapons turned on) and even showing how Section 31 was involved was fairly good. They could have done so much more with the show after that "Xindi" thing!!! Just wish they didn't kill off Cmdr. Tucker (he was the only original crew member to die).
That's one of my issues with Enterprise, they had all these interesting characters and then did nothing with them. Sato deserved at least 2 or 3 shows that focused on her, she was a genius with languages and that alone could have been amazing fodder for a couple of episodes. Like what if she were kidnapped by another race for her linguistic skills to help stop a war....that would have been an interesting idea.
Reed was virtually forgotten, as a military man with a long family history what about a few episodes dealing with a planet that was still using sailing ships and the crew had to navigate about the planet with Reeds genetic sailing skills as a plus he would need to overcome his fear of drowning in the same episode.
Trip should have been given credit for some of the revolutionary technology that would be developed. I can think of multiple episodes where he needs to gather materials to upgrade or invent items. A great epsiosde would have been Trip gets stranded on a planet and helps its inhabitants rebel against alien invaders by giving them technology to fight. A cute ending would have been that trip Marries a Scottish woman and has a young boy named Scotty.
Mayweathers freighter expierence should have been used more, at least he got an episode or 2 about going back to his parents freighter. He grew up in space and as such they could have given him a bit of mutant like skills. He really liked 0 gravity, he was skilled at moving around in it. A great episode or two about his skills would have been great. How about the enterprise loses its artificial gravity but Mayweather saves the day by being able to fight off a hostile boarding party with his 0 gravity skills.
Like I said, they seemed to focus on just two characters so much. It really would have made the series better if they took the time to flesh out each crewman, make the viewers invest in their lives. That's what DS9 did, it made you invest in so many of the characters.
I've watched 3 more Voyager episodes....I'm really trying hard to find bright spots. I love goofy neelix, Kess is just such a bright spirit, Tom is a ladies man, Harry really deserves a new rank. But Janeway makes me me insane. I would have loved a Margaret Thatcher type woman as Captain, an Iron butterfly.
Here's my Idea for Voyager, the ship and crew align themselves with what's left of Neelixs people and guide them to a new home...is it a BSG ripoff, yea kinda but it would have been a damn bit better than what I've seen so far. As the ship moved towards earth it could have picked up more and more ships with lost races looking for a new home. That would have been cool.
I love your ideas! That one about Trip was cool. Too bad he got killed off. He was kind of a "MacGyver" with being to invent something so quick. I agree about Lt. Reed. They could have done so much more with him since he too was inventive. He did create the Alert ("Turn that damn noise off"!) and added the Stun part to the phaser guns. Even if he preferred to shoot first and question later (if the victim survived that is). And what about his future? Doomed to be alone? Not too sure about Voyager - it does have some interesting stories though. And I liked the fact that Tom Paris was always chasing the girls (kinda like Trip) but eventually focused on B'elanna (I spelled it wrong?). Trip and T'Pol - they seemed to not know whether to cut or kiss! I wonder why T'Pol wanted to meet Trip's family AFTER he died? Doesn't seem logical except to bring his belongings to them. Still, you have some good ideas!
You mention Jolene being too emotional - as the show went on, I came to appreciate that. My view on what they were doing, was showing that the pure emotionless Vulcan philosophy wasn't quite yet fully formed. Or that maybe not every Vulcan subscribed to it. T'Pol believed in applying logic, but still allowed herself to feel and react emotionally, just a little. I was pleasantly surprised by Jolene - when the show began I assumed she was just there for the adolescent male eye candy, but I think she really gave us a good character to care about.
Yes, I believe that since Vulcans did not have full control in her time, T'Pol was a very good exception to the rule.
Ok so I've watched more Voyager....(SPOILER ALERT)........go away if you haven't watched it all and don't want to know.
So Kess is gone......that sucks butt. Loved the character and the idea of the race, good acting and writing for her (for the most part).
The Sex robot is onboard now, Kim is an idiot for not taking her up on her offer. If I were 20ish again and not married I'd hit that like a base drum all day long. The character though not rediculous is written ridiculously. How about a normal Starfleet uniform or clothes and real women do have a waist so a corset? Really? I mean the guy in me says he'll yea! But the realist in me thinks it cheapens the character.
I've learned to utterly ignore Janeway, that's how I enjoy Voyager. Yes I put up with how she's written and interferes in what might have been a great character but the writers ruined it and her inflections are.....well they are like what a woman thinks a man acts like but with a once in a while female facial expression. She represents all the hallmarks of the worst kind officer, energetic yet dumb and that's the kind of leader that gets people killed.
Neelix seems to have hugely reduced screen time...kinda of a bummer.
While putting up with Chakotays name being over pronounced I still like the character. The episodes he's in a lot tend to be ok.
Kim is still the universes bitch and the oldest virgin in the Delta quadrant.
Paris and Belana are a thing...finally after 3 seasons of hinting about.
Tuvak is Tuvak....the anchor....the unchangingly written statue since episode one.
I'm sure I've missed some but I'm learning to live around Janeway (still hasn't joined a convoy) (still thinks running in to give hugs and warm welcomes to all species is a good idea). Overall it's getting better not based on actually getting better but based on how I've learned to watch it.
So Kess is gone......that sucks butt. Loved the character and the idea of the race, good acting and writing for her (for the most part).
The Sex robot is onboard now, Kim is an idiot for not taking her up on her offer. If I were 20ish again and not married I'd hit that like a base drum all day long. The character though not rediculous is written ridiculously. How about a normal Starfleet uniform or clothes and real women do have a waist so a corset? Really? I mean the guy in me says he'll yea! But the realist in me thinks it cheapens the character.
I've learned to utterly ignore Janeway, that's how I enjoy Voyager. Yes I put up with how she's written and interferes in what might have been a great character but the writers ruined it and her inflections are.....well they are like what a woman thinks a man acts like but with a once in a while female facial expression. She represents all the hallmarks of the worst kind officer, energetic yet dumb and that's the kind of leader that gets people killed.
Neelix seems to have hugely reduced screen time...kinda of a bummer.
While putting up with Chakotays name being over pronounced I still like the character. The episodes he's in a lot tend to be ok.
Kim is still the universes bitch and the oldest virgin in the Delta quadrant.
Paris and Belana are a thing...finally after 3 seasons of hinting about.
Tuvak is Tuvak....the anchor....the unchangingly written statue since episode one.
I'm sure I've missed some but I'm learning to live around Janeway (still hasn't joined a convoy) (still thinks running in to give hugs and warm welcomes to all species is a good idea). Overall it's getting better not based on actually getting better but based on how I've learned to watch it.
Oh boy! Just watched the first epi of Xindi attack on Earth! (the Expanse)? I missed a few of these earlier on but now I'm not going to miss one part! Really felt bad for Tucker losing his little sis like that. I wanted to see it all so I can get a better idea of how this affects(affected?) the whole series. So far, so good.
I did find that episode and story arc incredibly interesting. Actually it managed to shock me a bit but it added to the war weary ptsd of the Captain even more. You will like this part of the series.
Thanks much. I will be watching tonight to see what happens next!
Speculation. I think that human women who marry Vulcan men would almost have to be those who have low sex drives - if the marriages are expected to be monogamous. Ditto for any other species marrying Vulcans whose typical sex drives mirror or exceed that of the average human.
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