General Trek Questions and Observations

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  1. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    I'm thinking the Borg might not want them. They didn't want the Kazon so why would they want some planets criminals and deadbeats?
     
  2. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    I'm watching through TNG now and some of the episodes seem way better then I remember them. Loved "Measure Of A Man" Loved "Elementary Dear Data"

    My question is this.

    Before Geordi asked the computer to create an opponent that can beat Data Moriarty is seen watching them use the Arch.... Was he aware of the Arch before Geordi changed his program or only after the change in is program?

    I got the distinct impression he was aware of the Arch both times.

    Also if the ship computer can create a self aware artificial consciousness why doesn't this ever happen more often? I wonder what Maddox would have thought about had he been around after the events of this episode when he wanted to take Data apart?
     
  3. Tracy Trek

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    If the ship's computer can create a self aware consciousness, does it have one itself?
     
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  4. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    I find that a very interesting question.
     
  5. Tracy Trek

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    I think it might be sort of dangerous to the crew if it did.
     
  6. Gingerbread Demon

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    True, but if a mere accident can cause it to create a self aware program then there's some serious stuff going on inside it. Surely this was never thought of when the ship was designed though and it probably wouldn't have entered the designers mind when they built the Enterprise.
     
  7. Six of Twelve

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    Because the Borg can re-structure their synaptic pathways and bring order to chaos. This is why the comment about not assimilating the Kazon doesn't ring true, unless there's something about the Kazon brain that makes this re-structuring impossible.
     
  8. UnknownSample

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    And how CAN it create sentience it doesn't have itself? That is the big flaw hanging over an otherwise great episode...
     
  9. 1001001

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    It did it again in Emergence.
     
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  10. EddieRich

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    I have been looking for a "specifications" document for the LCARS graphics we all know and love. There are many sites that have "projects" and flash animations, but I can't find a good description of what the different colors, sizes, shapes, text, etc. mean.

    In all the fan created artwork, and even screen shots of the series, there seem to be random numbers all over the place. This "GUI of the future" takes alot of screen space displaying random nothingness.

    I would ask Michael Okuda if I ever meet him, but I was wondering if a "tech manual" ever included descriptions of the colors, text and design of the user interfaces on any of the series.
     
  11. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    In my head canon, the incidents in "The Big Goodbye" and "11001001" created a sentience "bug" in the Enterprise's computer, which resulted in Moriarty and culminated in "Emergence."
     
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  12. Gingerbread Demon

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    And it started with Minuet....

    She was the bug introduced into the system.

    BTW LCARS makes no sense to me.

    Sure it looks cool but how do you know you are choosing any particular function off the computer when all you see is oblongs and random numbers.. No actual menu structure. Sure I've seen Windows 7 interfaces modelled on LCARS but they have a structure that can be followed. LCARS as you see it on the show just to me makes no sense.
     
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    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    I was thinking that it started with the Jaradan probe.
     
  14. Gingerbread Demon

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    How so?
     
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    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    That's what caused the bug in "The Big Goodbye" that first had holographic characters gaining awareness of their true nature.
     
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  16. Gingerbread Demon

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    Ah........ Yeah well that explains a lot. That's why I thought Moriarty was aware of the arch and stuff even before Geordi opened his trap and made it worse.
     
  17. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Well there was that bit in "Conspiracy" where the computer refers to itself in the first person ("Thank you, sir. I comprehend")...if the computer isn't sentient, then why would it do that?

    Although to be fair, that writing flub was never repeated again in any other episode, so (like the '200 years ago' error from "Dr. Bashir, I Presume") it can probably be explained away as a mistake that was never intended.
     
  18. UnknownSample

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    Or there is sentience, a hazy inbetween sort of it. Actually, interactive program telemarketing calls say "I"...
     
  19. Six of Twelve

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    What if Dukat had teamed up with the Borg, instead of the Dominion?
     
  20. UnknownSample

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    Nah, Dukat's in it for the ego stroking.