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Was there ever any major Starfleet exploration of the Beta Quadrant? Or did the Klingons and Romulans take up too much territory and for lack of a better word, block the way to the deeper parts of the BQ.
 
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Watching the featerette on the BluRay TWOK Directors cut, I noticed how much Nick Meyer looks like a Vulcan. They should use him as an extra in the new series.
 
Well there was that bit in "Conspiracy" where the computer refers to itself in the first person ("Thank you, sir. I comprehend")...if the computer isn't sentient, then why would it do that?

Although to be fair, that writing flub was never repeated again in any other episode, so (like the '200 years ago' error from "Dr. Bashir, I Presume") it can probably be explained away as a mistake that was never intended.

Wasn't the TOS computer programmed to speak like that, I can't remember the episode but it referred to Kirk as dear and he threatened it so it would behave - I don't think that came up again but still.
 
Wasn't the TOS computer programmed to speak like that, I can't remember the episode but it referred to Kirk as dear and he threatened it so it would behave - I don't think that came up again but still.
That was the "Tomorrow is Yesterday" episode. The one where they appear over 60s America as a UFO.
 
^ And that was due to deliberate interference by the natives of Cygnet XIV.

Even then, though, the computer never spoke in the first person. It called Kirk "dear" and all that, but it never spoke of itself.
 
Was there ever any major Starfleet exploration of the Beta Quadrant? Or did the Klingons and Romulans take up too much territory and for lack of a better word, block the way to the deeper parts of the BQ.

According to Star Trek Maps, Earth is actually right on the border of the Alpha and Beta quadrants, and Earth is roughly in the center of the Federation. Klingon and Romulan space lie farther out in the Beta. So we've explored about the same in each quad.
 
Yeah, I wonder if that was just one person's idea, someone putting the map together to sell, rather than anyone official. We'd have heard more about the Beta Q. We wouldn't hear sweeping remarks being made about the Alpha Q implying it's "home", for Voyager, say.
 
I got a question -- it just occured to me yesterday: how in the world do turbolifts even work?

This came to me when I was looking at an image and decided to see just what is on the sticker on the front of the doors. Sure enough I found an image that confirmed my question:
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So I presume all the turbolift doors have a number indicating which lift it is. But how in the world does this even work? I'm completely confused now that I think of it.

There must be two sets of doors since the door closes and doesn't go down, though in the past it appears only one set of doors, but how is this of any use? I thought TNG turbolifts, that change from vertical to horizontal travel, moved all over to any deck and another turbolift could take it's place, so what good is that number on the door? It surely can't corrospond to what ever turbolift is in there, and even if it did, why would it even be numbered? What good is that? Internally its good to keep track of travelors, but numbered on the door?

And if magically it's only one lift per the marked number on the door, which I recall more than one lft arriving seperately, doesn't that get needlessly congested, since every lift has to return back to it's point to keep to its assigned number?
 
I got a question -- it just occured to me yesterday: how in the world do turbolifts even work?

This came to me when I was looking at an image and decided to see just what is on the sticker on the front of the doors. Sure enough I found an image that confirmed my question:
TNGCaption243h.jpg



So I presume all the turbolift doors have a number indicating which lift it is. But how in the world does this even work? I'm completely confused now that I think of it.

There must be two sets of doors since the door closes and doesn't go down, though in the past it appears only one set of doors, but how is this of any use? I thought TNG turbolifts, that change from vertical to horizontal travel, moved all over to any deck and another turbolift could take it's place, so what good is that number on the door? It surely can't corrospond to what ever turbolift is in there, and even if it did, why would it even be numbered? What good is that? Internally its good to keep track of travelors, but numbered on the door?

And if magically it's only one lift per the marked number on the door, which I recall more than one lft arriving seperately, doesn't that get needlessly congested, since every lift has to return back to it's point to keep to its assigned number?

According to the Enterprise-D blueprints, there are multiple Turbolift stops, corridors and multiple Turbolifts just waiting at every access point. The number on the door refers to the Deck number. Plus, I don't know why crewmembers had to wait at a Turbolift stop when there were multiple Turbolifts on the ship.
 
Thanks for clearing that up, CaptainSpirk.

Plus, I don't know why crewmembers had to wait at a Turbolift stop when there were multiple Turbolifts on the ship.

If I had to make guesses for TNG, I'd say there weren't as many as we think and there's probably a system in place that keeps them moving in an efficient manner and not stopping all the time, just some times.

I think McCoy is the only one I've known to complain about it, saying something like, "Who's been holding up the damn elevator?" (I guess there was one or two in older ships).


I wonder why crew need to have the deck number of the outer turbolift doors? You'd think they'd know where they are -- they either live on that deck or went there intentionally for business or personal reasons.
 
Thanks for clearing that up, CaptainSpirk.

If I had to make guesses for TNG, I'd say there weren't as many as we think and there's probably a system in place that keeps them moving in an efficient manner and not stopping all the time, just some times.

I think McCoy is the only one I've known to complain about it, saying something like, "Who's been holding up the damn elevator?" (I guess there was one or two in older ships).

Even the older ships's blueprints from Cygnus website shows multiple Turbolift's, unless, those blueprints were mistaken or he "was" actually waiting for a Turbolift for dramatic purpose. :hugegrin:


I wonder why crew need to have the deck number of the outer turbolift doors? You'd think they'd know where they are -- they either live on that deck or went there intentionally for business or personal reasons.

It's probably easy to get lost on a ship that size, plus I don't think everyone can remember where are they, all except Data, who has an eidetic memory.
 
Random Person on the Enterprise: "Computer, which deck am I on?"

Computer: "Deck twelve."

"Thanks. I don't know how I passed an officer's test if I'm this dumb."
 
It's even worse when you're on the Enterprise A:

First you climb by Deck 12, then a deck with no deck sign, then Deck 13, then lower back down to the deck with no number, then go to Deck 10 when the rate of descent should have put you on maybe Deck 11, fire the rockets and zip up to Deck 35 in an instant, pass by Deck 52, 63 and 64, Deck 63 and 64 again, Deck 52 again, warping to Deck 77 and 78, about a dozen more decks visible upward, and finally Deck 73 which happens to be located after Deck 78. That's about where the end is reached.

Yeah, confusing as fuck. Especially considering the Enterprise A only had a little over twenty decks.
 
I wonder why crew need to have the deck number of the outer turbolift doors? You'd think they'd know where they are -- they either live on that deck or went there intentionally for business or personal reasons.

It's probably for new crewmembers. Every ship I've been on has decks labelled, and those labels are invaluable when you're new and still familiarising yourself with the ship. After awhile, though, you stop even noticing them.
 
Why not give us an idea of what they're saying? I'm not interested in advertising for someone's podcast.
 
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