General Trek Questions and Observations

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by The Old Mixer, Nov 3, 2016.

  1. bbailey861

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    Haha, I like that. Apparently the youngsters of today also invented the long playing record.
     
  2. tharpdevenport

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    I have an observation that might be interesting. I finally got around to hearing an old long audio interview with the late Leonard Rosenman. Now, probably a lot of users here know by now that he and Nimoy were friends, but I bet most of you didn't know this:

    Rosenman sounds like an uncanny voice double for late-Trek films Nimoy. Rosenman could have done voice dubs for the films -- it was that good.
     
  3. Six of Twelve

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    Christmas is mentioned on the Voyager episode, Survival Instinct with Janeway's prehensile tree. Can anyone name another episode or movie from any series where Christmas is mentioned?
     
  4. Tenacity

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    There was a Christmas scene in Generations right after Picard first entered the Matrix.
     
  5. UnknownSample

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    Kirk and Helen Noel at the Christmas party...
     
  6. Tracy Trek

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    In Trek's fictional 23rd and 24th centuries, do you think that Mars is completely terraformed (like you can go outside without a suit or a breather unit). Or would the people that lived and worked there be living under a dome?

    I think some of the books indicate it is. But has anyone ever mentioned on one of the shows. I know it's been stated people live and work there*, but was anything ever said about it being terraformed?

    *The Starfleet shipyards are supposed to be on Mars at Utopia Planetia, right?
     
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  7. Six of Twelve

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    I think it depends on why people live on Mars. Are all the people there for a specific purpose, such as the shipyards or as part of Earth's defense perimeter, as shown in BOBW? Or are there any general residents, who just wanted to move there, but not for any specific job? If people live there only for the first reason, their stays are likely on a relatively short term and rotating basis, thus it would be more likely that they live under domes and that the planet would be only partially terraformed at best by this time. Like maybe where they'd not need a complete spacesuit, but would need only some breathing apparatus when they left the dome. But if there is a general population on Mars, in addition to the first group, I'd say it would have to be completely terraformed, as who would just choose to live there permanently if it wasn't?
     
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  8. Nyotarules

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    Perhaps in the future living on a planet under a dome will be considered normal. The books are not canon but one or some of them state there is a considerable Tellarite Diaspora living on Mars.
     
  9. The Old Mixer

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    "Court Martial" namedropped the Fundamental Declarations of the Martian Colonies as a legal precedent, so that would seem to indicate that there's more going on there than just the shipyards.
     
  10. Tracy Trek

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    Again, not canon since it's from a book. But in the Voyager book Mosaic, wasn't there something about a teenage Kathryn Janeway and some friends swimming and sunbathing at a Martian lake near Olympus Mons. Then later she and Hobbes (Mark) go cave diving. Maybe I'm not recalling all the details right, but it sounded like they were not under a dome.
     
  11. Nyotarules

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    Man- made lakes, fake beaches, swimming pool all exist now in spa & sports centres
     
  12. Mr. Laser Beam

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    I'm pretty sure Mars has been terraformed by the time of Trek. At least in the 24th century.
     
  13. The Old Mixer

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    The Memory Alpha article on The Fundamental Declaration of the Martian Colonies mentions that they considered a story for ENT that would have dealt with that event in a way that also involved the terraforming of Mars.
     
  14. Tenacity

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    I think the moon too, there a shot of the Enterprise passing the moon in Conspiracy and I would love to have TPTB change it to show a beautiful terraformed green moon with blue oceans and hundreds of round lakes.
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  15. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    Place looks like a swamp. :p
     
  16. UnknownSample

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    In the DS9 about cadets, one who came from the Moon talked about the startling light, which only happens in a vacuum. I think terraforming is in its infancy in Trek. It's very experimental still.
     
  17. Six of Twelve

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    I'm thinking the moon couldn't be terraforned, as it has insufficient gravity to hold on to an atmosphere.
     
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    The dirt of the Moon all contains microscopic beads of glass, due to it being produced by impacts. Plants might be able to grow in it, but people could never breath that dust in the air. It would never work.
     
  19. 1001001

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    You can see Tycho City, New Berlin... even Lake Armstrong on a day like this!
     
  20. Tracy Trek

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    When I heard that line in First Contact, I assumed it all might have been under a really big dome. Or maybe several smaller domes.
     
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