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General thoughts on ENT?

I often wonder if part of the reason season 4 was successful was the change to 2 and 3 part arc's for much of that season, more than 1 episode give you much more room to play with than a singular 1-off episode or at least that's one of the things I enjoyed about the final season.

I could agree with that. Most of Voyager's best episodes were 2-parters, DS9 took what 6-7 episodes to wrap up the series and the war? TNG also had some great 2-parters like BoBW and AGT's.

But on the same note, one of my favorite season 4 episodes was 'Observer Effect' and that's only a one-episode story.

I guess in either case, the writing has to be good.
 
Generally speaking, Seasons 1-3 weren't that good.

I did like some episodes, my favorite from before Season 4 was "Regeneration." It explained how the Borg from Star Trek: First Contact escaped and transmitted the location of Earth to be received in the 24th Century for "The Best of Both Worlds." The Borg were finally scary and the writing was suspenseful. It reminded me of "Where No Man Has Gone Before" with T'Pol and Archer discussing whether to kill off the infected crew like Spock and Kirk over Gary Mitchell being turned into a God.

There were some episodes that were necessary to move the plot to Season 4 that involved the Vulcans and Andorians. "First Flight" was also necessary to show how the ship came to be. "Horizon" was cool because it showed the human side of Travis Mayweather and the Earth Cargo Service. The writing was dry mostly because it suffered from having Rick Berman and Brandon Braga in control since Star Trek: The Next Generation.

Season 4 was the best season of Star Trek ever. It pays fan service to Star Trek: The Original Series. It's what it should have been, because the producers basically ignored putting themes of the original 1960's show.If you get the chance, check out the Relaunch novels of Star Trek: Enteprise, especially The Good That Men Do, Kobayashi Maru, The Romulan War series, (Beneath the Raptor's Wing and To Brave the Storm) and the Rise of the Federation series. It was made by better writers.

I had some problems with Captain Archer having no problem killing members of his crew and enemies like in S3 and S4. He used torture to get information in the Xindi Arc. I was hoping that they would make it more like Kirk.

T'Pol was an emotional Vulcan sometimes, it was part of her character, so I can't say that it was anyone's fault.

Malcom Reed was an amazing character for me. He was a charming, military brit.

Trip was considered the best character. I can't say I disagree, but Reed was my favorite. In short, he was the Southern guy who ran the engine.

Travis Mayweather was probably a very talented helm, but he seemed a little too timid.

Hoshi Sato was interesting being a devolvement from Uhura.

Shran was very well acted, even if you don't like Star Trek: Enterprise, he was a good character, but not as good as Weyoun in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.


I wish that they didn't use a cloaking device when they introduced the Romulans... :brickwall:
 
I often wonder if part of the reason season 4 was successful was the change to 2 and 3 part arc's for much of that season, more than 1 episode give you much more room to play with than a singular 1-off episode or at least that's one of the things I enjoyed about the final season.
The short arcs were done partly for budgetary reasons, but I agree there were definite benefits. Interesting they went the opposite way to Doctor Who, which used to do arcs of six (on average) half-hour episodes, but now does 40 minute mini-movies.

He also lacked diplomacy, something that really should have been high on the list of qualities needed for a captain of the first vessel out of Earth in deep space
Not sure what you mean, as he was always trying to create a good impression with new aliens and being very respectful.

(The exception to this is his issue with Vulcans, who weren't "new" aliens (he saw them more as "alien overlords", and was not completely wrong ;) ), and A Night In Sickbay, when he was basically going through a nervous breakdown.)

I had some problems with Captain Archer having no problem killing members of his crew
When did Archer kill his own crew??? :wtf:
 
When did Archer kill his own crew??? :wtf:
I was thinking the same thing . I actually appreciated the fact that when Archer lost crew members, he was genuinely upset and disturbed by it. The only captain (that I can recall) that actually was visibly affected by the loss. There was even a nice scene during the Xindi arc where Malcolm "lost it " after Hawkins is killed.

No traditional "red shirts" on Enterprise.
 
I believe you meant "Hayes" Willow?

...and yes, loses during the Xindi mission wore heavy on not just Archer, but the crew as well. 'The Forgotten' is a great episode that depicts this.
 
I am a big fan of ENT and am in the process of rewatching all of the episodes, so maybe you don't want my opinion (but I'll say it anyway). I am someone who likes backstories and prequels. So just like I live First Contact, I love ENT. I am fascinated to see the time when the transporter wasn't mainstream yet, when there was no Prime Directive and you get to see Archer groping around and make mistakes and you get annoyed at him and mad sometimes but also pity him and understands his (and his crew's) learning process. I liked the way ENT portrays the strained relationship between human and Vulcans, and get to see Vulcans in all array for imperfectness.

Unlike many, I did not get bored with Season 1 and 2 - there were some gems in it - but I do admit that season 3 and 4 are more gripping, especially the Xindi and the temporal war story arc.
 
I believe you meant "Hayes" Willow?
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I think Willow really did mean Hawkins, not Hayes. Hawkins was the MACO guy who went with him, Travis and T'Pol to steal the database from the Sphere. Hawkins got killed and Reed was devastated and said so to Hayes
 
I think Willow really did mean Hawkins, not Hayes. Hawkins was the MACO guy who went with him, Travis and T'Pol to steal the database from the Sphere. Hawkins got killed and Reed was devastated and said so to Hayes

Yes, I remember Reed's little speech.
 
I.ve been rewatching Season 2 of Enterprise I really liked Future tense it was a good show. I really liked the scene with Archer and Malcolm working on a torpedo to stop the Tholians from getting control of the Enterprise and take control of the mysterious ship they found.
 
Yup, although I wish they would have schwacked Reed :D
Oh no! Not Malcolm! He was my favorite character. :eek:Having said that, it would make total sense had he died during the Xindi mission. Trip's death would have made sense also, in that scenario, considering how engineering was totally destroyed during the battle at Azati Prime.

And in regards to your previous comment, I DID mean Hawkins - that's when Malcolm gave his little speech. But, then he also seemed affected by the death of Hayes.
 
I.ve been rewatching Season 2 of Enterprise I really liked Future tense it was a good show. I really liked the scene with Archer and Malcolm working on a torpedo to stop the Tholians from getting control of the Enterprise and take control of the mysterious ship they found.
It's been awhile since I watched that one, but wasn't that Trip that worked with Malcolm in the torpedo? And they were going through some time "loop" , repeating their conversation , and having deja vu?
 
It's been awhile since I watched that one, but wasn't that Trip that worked with Malcolm in the torpedo? And they were going through some time "loop" , repeating their conversation , and having deja vu?
I can't remember, but I think I am nearing a 1/3 of the way through season 2 now so I should get to it soon I think (I am not rushing through as I don't want to suffer 'burnout')
 
It's been awhile since I watched that one, but wasn't that Trip that worked with Malcolm in the torpedo? And they were going through some time "loop" , repeating their conversation , and having deja vu?
No, it was Malcolm. Trip was in engineering putting back together that thingy they took off the ship. It ended up being a beacon of sorts.

Loved the episode BTW. Loved when the Suliban got their asses handed to them by the Tholians :D
 
It's been awhile since I watched that one, but wasn't that Trip that worked with Malcolm in the torpedo? And they were going through some time "loop" , repeating their conversation , and having deja vu?

Yes this is episode Future Tense
 
There were some ideas for ENT presented by execs that were discussed elsewhere on this forum, and they were met by those posting with sharp criticism. One such idea was that there be a "Boy Band" on the show, every week to attract a larger female audience. At first, I must admit, it kind of sounds like they're pulling it out of nowhere. But having USO shows, kind of, on a regular basis might've really given the series it's own flavour. I'm not so sure I'd reject the idea, outright, I think I like it ...
 
They should get more in touch with what the people want.
Getting any two Trek fans to agree on what good Trek looks like is trying to find two exactly identical MINI Coopers. :p I used to work at a dealership, so I'm pretty confident in saying neither of those things exists in the wild, lol.

I have been able to get MINI customers to accept a different car than the one they pictured they wanted. I can't say that for a good number of Trek fans.
 
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