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General Species' Planet Names Inquiry

Again, nothing indicates that Schneider was thinking of the way English speakers giving their own names to other people's nations when coming up with the name Romulan. Schneider using classical names is hardly insulting nor indicative of a lack of imagination
Sometimes writers have humans give coincidentally appropriate names to things, because they care more about giving an impression to the audience than nitpicking the in-universe credibility of such names.
Which is exactly my point and what Schneider was doing. Saying humans named the planet "Romulus" is a nit-picky rationalization born of a need for "credibility".
 
And sometimes, names that are used sound cool, and it works and they entertain the audience... with no need for ridiculous nitpicking. I love details, and details within those details, but sometimes it can be taken too far. To the point where it becomes less enjoyable.

(And this is coming from someone who has been known as Mr. Trivia. Even I know when to shut off my trivia brain and enjoy what I am seeing.)
 
Of course, we're probably looking at this the wrong way around to start with.

Romulans were a thing some two thousand years ago already, or at least Those Who March Under the Raptor's Wings were. And at that point, the folks of which said Romulans were part had been flying between stars for a thousand years already ("Remember the Alamo, uh, P'Jem!").

Us Earthlings only started speaking about Romulus a thousand years after that fact. For all we know, we learned about Romulus and Remus from the horse's mouth. After all, that's how the Greeks of old knew their God was named Apollo - because He told them so!

Timo Saloniemi
 
Then why didn't Hoshi and Archer find the name Romulan strangely familiar??
 
Then why didn't Hoshi and Archer find the name Romulan strangely familiar??

Probably because the scriptwriters for "Minefield" didn't realize the name was based on Roman mythology. Classics aren't taught in American schools to the same extent they used to be.
 
I'm not sure the "classics" ever were taught the way modern ELA, US History, Algebra and biology are taught nowadays, as the school system is much more massive than it was a century ago...
 
I'm not sure the "classics" ever were taught the way modern ELA, US History, Algebra and biology are taught nowadays, as the school system is much more massive than it was a century ago...

All I know is, I had to take 3 years of Latin in my high school, and even then it was one of the few public schools that still required Latin.
 
Good for you...really.

I kind of doubt Berman was that ignorant of the Greek mythologies. I suspect he knew but didn't give a fuck.
 
Probably because the scriptwriters for "Minefield" didn't realize the name was based on Roman mythology. Classics aren't taught in American schools to the same extent they used to be.

John Shiban wrote "MINEFIELD", and he was about 40-41 when he was on ENTERPRISE. One would think he would have learned the classics in school given his age.
 
Yah...

They really didn't give a fuck...like how Archer seemed unfamiliar with the name "Rigel" in Broken Arrow...
 
What would make the name Romulan "strangely familiar" to Archer's team? At this stage, nothing remotely Roman would be associated with these space folks; it's just another space word that happens to be homonym to an Earth word, no stranger than having a Vulcan named Spock (or a planet named Vulcan when it comes to that).

It is only with Kirk's encounter that an association between Romulus and Romulus might be revealed. But at that point, the UT is probably at play, inventing Roman-sounding terminology where none exists ("Centurion" is unlikely to be a word from the Romulan language, and the original Romulan word need not have meant "Boss of a hundred" in direct translation, either, but the UT aims to please, similarly inventing "Troglyte" to denote cave-dwellers etc).

What to make of Rigel in "Broken Bow"? The Trek universe might have lacked a prominent star by that Earth name; the name might have been pronounced Rig-ill as it really should in the Trek universe, rather than Rye-gel as it is in ours; or the heroes dismissed the possibility of it being an Earth name because, well, it was spoken by a Klingot...

When T'Pol then says there's a place name Rigel nearby, it's unlikely to be called Rigel in any Earth language - it's a name of alien origin instead. The "real" Rigel at the constellation Orion is probably called Budgrahooch in the Klingot language anyway.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Paul Schneider's son was studying Roman mythology so that's why he created the twin planets of Romulus and Remus in Star Trek! I don't see why that couldn't be their actual names, there are many other inconsistencies in TOS and other worlds which have some similarities to Earth like Ekos, Omega IV etc.!
JB
 
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