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And it's known within the Star Trek community that anything less than seven seasons has a stigma. This is a perception I assume Alex Kurtzman and Michelle Paradise are also aware of.

And that assumption is correct. Kurtzman mentioned Trek’s seven season association in direct relationship to Discovery’s longevity last year, on an episode of The Hollywood Reporter’s TV’s Top 5 podcast:

Alex Kurtzman said:
I’m going to say in all honesty, there are years and years left on Discovery. First of all, Star Trek, in general, has a long history of going something like seven seasons minimum. And we just jumped into the future.
 
Adira Becomes LESS Confident Over Time . illogical Character Development of Star Trek Discovery

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Not only does the anomaly-that-isn’t-a-wormhole but acts like one smack of The Prophets, but I finally figured out what has been bugging me about the Fed Pres. She reminds me of Kai Wynn. And she’s part Bajoran and Cardassian. Am I nuts?
 
Netflix has DSC listed as having 11 episodes in S4.

It’s been typically in the 13 episode range if I remember correctly. Anyone have the confirmation, without someone speculating that it means the inevitable death of the show and all things Star Trek related?
 
Netflix has DSC listed as having 11 episodes in S4.

Netflix?

It’s been typically in the 13 episode range if I remember correctly. Anyone have the confirmation, without someone speculating that it means the inevitable death of the show and all things Star Trek related?

So far I’ve not seen any official source with a number listed, just 13 on memory alpha, and 11 on IMDb.

They’ve gone down one episode a season in number, with Season 1 at 15, 2 at 14, and 3 with 13 episodes, so 11 wouldn’t be a crazy reduction, especially with the increased number of live action Trek in production.
 
Netflix?



So far I’ve not seen any official source with a number listed, just 13 on memory alpha, and 11 on IMDb.

They’ve gone down one episode a season in number, with Season 1 at 15, 2 at 14, and 3 with 13 episodes, so 11 wouldn’t be a crazy reduction, especially with the increased number of live action Trek in production.

Oops sorry, I meant Rotten Tomatoes. I was browsing Netflix as I typed that. Brain fart.
 
Oops sorry, I meant Rotten Tomatoes. I was browsing Netflix as I typed that. Brain fart.

Gotcha! I’m not sure what their source is, but Rotten Tomatoes *did* have the title of the next episode of Prodigy, S01E06 Kobayashi, ahead of any other public source ‪‪I could find, and it was confirmed by the series creators/showrunners in a podcast interview.

Given RT’s recent track record with advance Trek info being accurate, and that IMDb has also had 11 as the number listed for a while, if I had to guess, ‪‪it seems we have the most reason to believe the final episode count will be 11.
 
The ratings are brutal for this show at imdb.com. A 4.9 for "All is Possible"? It really wasn't that terrible and was much better than some of the worst dreck put out by older Trek, like "Sub Rosa" which got 4.8.
 
The ratings are brutal for this show at imdb.com. A 4.9 for "All is Possible"? It really wasn't that terrible and was much better than some of the worst dreck put out by older Trek, like "Sub Rosa" which got 4.8.
discovery is always ''review bombed'' by the ''fandom menace'' crowd add to that people who's displeased about the international streaming situation and you get low score personally i don't think anyone should take those seriously since they're pretty pointless
 
You've got a Superfan who rates it a 10.
You've got a more "normal" fan who rates it a 7.
You've got someone who's lukewarm who rates it a 5.
You've got some asshole from the Fandom Menace who rates it a 1.
And then you have a pissed off Non-American/Canadian who rates it a 1.

24 points total. Divided by 5 votes. That gets you a 4.8... pretty close to the "4.9" given to "All Is Possible". The real rating, when you take out those last two, is more like a low 7.
 
You've got a Superfan who rates it a 10.
You've got a more "normal" fan who rates it a 7.
You've got someone who's lukewarm who rates it a 5.
You've got some asshole from the Fandom Menace who rates it a 1.
And then you have a pissed off Non-American/Canadian who rates it a 1.

24 points total. Divided by 5 votes. That gets you a 4.8... pretty close to the "4.9" given to "All Is Possible". The real rating, when you take out those last two, is more like a low 7.

Yeah, trolls have destroyed online ratings systems. At some point I'd like to see a meta-analysis to see where and why professional reviewers scores and fan scores depart so much. Usually the common thread for things downrated seems to be bigots (lots of the 1 ratings complain about "woke bullshit" with any series - usually having too many female, nonwhite, or LGBT characters) but I've never been able to determine what the common thread between things fans love and critics hate is.

Altered Carbon was a great example of this on both sides. Season 1 was hated by critics, but loved by fans. Then Season 2 came out and critics said how much it improved, but it was review bombed - and not coincidentally it featured a black actor as the protagonist, a black woman given a central role in the plot, and the sexual exploitation featured in the first season went away. Mind you, the show lost a lot of its distinctiveness beyond this, but the level of vitriol about the second season was pretty goddamned high.
 
And then you have a pissed off Non-American/Canadian who rates it a 1.
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Even without pissed-off non-Americans/Canadians, it would only be a 5.9.

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For anyone who’s interested, a little later today/tonight (7 pm EST) there’s a conversation with Sonequa Martin-Green, Alex Kurtzman, Michelle Paradise and Olatunde Osunnsanmi hosted by The Washington Post’s Helena Andrews.

There’s still time to sign up for it here for those interested who’ve got the time free.
 
For anyone who’s interested, a little later today/tonight (7 pm EST) there’s a conversation with Sonequa Martin-Green, Alex Kurtzman, Michelle Paradise and Olatunde Osunnsanmi hosted by The Washington Post’s Helena Andrews.

There’s still time to sign up for it here for those interested who’ve got the time free.

Hey, thanks. Never would have known about this. I love listening to these folks, especially Sonequa and Michelle.
 
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