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Hell, Enterprise's main cast mostly consists of TOS parallels. In addition to the central triad of the Captain, the Vulcan and the Southerner, you got someone from the UK being the next most prominent character. Then Enterprise swapped TOS's black communications officer and Asian helmsman for an Asian communications officer and a black helmsman. Phlox is the only one of Enterprise's cast who is not a direct TOS parallel.
I would argue Phlox is more prominent than Reed, he gets more development and has more episodes focused on him.
 
So I recently decided to finally watch all of Discovery (including rewatching the first two seasons, which I had watched as they came out), and just finished rewatching Season 1. I remember not hating Season 1 when I first watched it (despite hating some of its choices, I think I considered it tolerable), but I liked it better on rewatch. Going into it not being surprised by things like the bizarre choices the show makes with the Klingons let me get past some of my bigger problems. Now I still don't agree with the choices made regarding the Klingons, and a lot of the klingon only scenes still fell flat with me, but I was able to be a bit more detached toward that stuff and not let it bother me.

I think what I liked better the most on rewatch were the main characters. They're not perfect, but I got attached to characters like Stamets, Saru, Culber, Tilly and even Burnham more now then I was back when it originally aired. Not that they don't still annoy me on occasion, but I appreciated them more this time (although the Burnham/Tyler romance was still a bit eye rolling). Also Lorca was just great in his role, both as the hard nosed Starfleet Captain and then when his identity was revealed as a mirror universe Terran rebel. I'd say that Tyler/Voq and L'Rell were probably the weakest of the recurring characters to me, but I found them tolerable this time around.

I also remember preferring the mirror universe episodes to the other episodes originally, but this time around I thought that the Mirror Universe stuff felt a bit drawn out and liked the stuff before and after it a bit more.

Overall I enjoyed this first season rewatch. I don't think any of the episodes are anywhere near the best in the franchise, but there was only one episode that I would rate as less then "Good" (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum, which I thought was "meh"). Next up is season 2, which I remember liking better then Season 1 back in the day. Honestly its going to be Season 3+ that will be the real test, but with my enjoyment of the characters increasing with this rewatch and my existing knowledge of the Season 3 elements that I find questionable making stuff that no longer a blindside I'm definitely interested to see how this rewatch/first complete watch turns out.
 
So I recently decided to finally watch all of Discovery (including rewatching the first two seasons, which I had watched as they came out), and just finished rewatching Season 1. I remember not hating Season 1 when I first watched it (despite hating some of its choices, I think I considered it tolerable), but I liked it better on rewatch. Going into it not being surprised by things like the bizarre choices the show makes with the Klingons let me get past some of my bigger problems. Now I still don't agree with the choices made regarding the Klingons, and a lot of the klingon only scenes still fell flat with me, but I was able to be a bit more detached toward that stuff and not let it bother me.

I think what I liked better the most on rewatch were the main characters. They're not perfect, but I got attached to characters like Stamets, Saru, Culber, Tilly and even Burnham more now then I was back when it originally aired. Not that they don't still annoy me on occasion, but I appreciated them more this time (although the Burnham/Tyler romance was still a bit eye rolling). Also Lorca was just great in his role, both as the hard nosed Starfleet Captain and then when his identity was revealed as a mirror universe Terran rebel. I'd say that Tyler/Voq and L'Rell were probably the weakest of the recurring characters to me, but I found them tolerable this time around.

I also remember preferring the mirror universe episodes to the other episodes originally, but this time around I thought that the Mirror Universe stuff felt a bit drawn out and liked the stuff before and after it a bit more.

Overall I enjoyed this first season rewatch. I don't think any of the episodes are anywhere near the best in the franchise, but there was only one episode that I would rate as less then "Good" (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum, which I thought was "meh"). Next up is season 2, which I remember liking better then Season 1 back in the day. Honestly its going to be Season 3+ that will be the real test, but with my enjoyment of the characters increasing with this rewatch and my existing knowledge of the Season 3 elements that I find questionable making stuff that no longer a blindside I'm definitely interested to see how this rewatch/first complete watch turns out.
The Klingons in season 1 were a Valiant effort to freshen up a race that became boring.

They added history from literature, deepened the culture, gave us technological rationalization and made them more alien, as well as giving their language center stage.

Most of the history I liked, but people couldn't handle it.

My biggest gripe is the resolution of season 1 needed more Klingons, and we should have had one fewer MU episode, and one extra episode about the conflict.
 
Currently going through Season 3, my increased enjoyment of some of the side characters (Saru, Tilly, Stamets, Cuber) continues, but the show has definitely become a slog. I'm not angry with it like when I first tried to watch season 3, I'm mostly just bored and occasionally irritated. I briefly questioned whether Burnham's actress had injured her throat, since she literally only talks in whispers (even when no one else does) and honestly its way more off putting then the crying or other melodramatic elements that this season is really getting into. Also, Book is probably the most uninteresting recurring cast member in Trek history and all of the story stuff connected to him is especially boring.

All that said Saru has really become a top tier Trek character, easily my favorite on the show. It says something about Season 3 though that my favorite scene of the season so far was a clip of Spock from Unification. I didn't expect Discovery to revert Vulcan's as a species to the weirdly aggressive assholes from early Enterprise, honestly the whole "the Federation broke up" plot is ridiculous but admittedly compared to "The Burn" in general its just a bit annoying.

Still solidly on course to go through the series, but after being pleasantly surprised by how I generally enjoyed the first two seasons it really feels like Season 3 has taken a downturn.
 
Let me start by saying I am SOOOO GLAD we don't see the Borg in Discovery. That concept was beaten so hard, it's a wet spot on the ground. But, I'm sure there's an in-universe explanation for them not being there. Can't be "the burn" since we've never seen warp nacelles on the ships. They use trans-warp conduits. Can someone enlighten me?

Also, would Mirror Universe Borg be flower children?
 
Let me start by saying I am SOOOO GLAD we don't see the Borg in Discovery. That concept was beaten so hard, it's a wet spot on the ground. But, I'm sure there's an in-universe explanation for them not being there. Can't be "the burn" since we've never seen warp nacelles on the ships. They use trans-warp conduits. Can someone enlighten me?

Also, would Mirror Universe Borg be flower children?
Considering what Control did to Leland in DISCO season 2, it was definitely Borg adjacent.
 
So most of the way through season 4 (just watched Episode 9), I have to say it: Tarka was right, the DMA needed to be destroyed. Now I know this is Discovery and Burnham will always be right in the end, I'm sure that Species 10-C are all little adorable Fraggle-like creatures who are mining planets to cure their dog's cancer or something similarly insipid, but based on the info given it made no sense for the council to vote against Tarka's plan and he & Booker did the right thing, based off of the information available at the time.

Also, unconnected to that, but Burnham had two melodramatic speeches in Episode 9 which has really pushed that trope to the point of parody. Saru and Stamets are really carrying the cast for me at this point.
 
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