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If it’s not terribly obvious, I don’t care about canon, at least in the way many fans hold it so dear to their hearts. To be honest, I find canon to be a tapestry. Amazingly it holds together and can be gorgeous but the closer you get, you see details you’ve never seen before and can always see something new you’ve never noticed before. It’s ultimately something that can be drawn from but there’s always more to be seen.

At the end of the day, it’s a tool that writers can use to pull from. These writers likely have more nerdy discussions than even we do on this forum. And they still can’t please many fans because of the almighty canon. “Well geez, in episode 282, the engineering console went beep-beep-blip. But in episode 512, it went blip-beep-beep! That’s a canon violation. #notmystartrek”

Lower Decks doesn’t do anything that is a major violation of established continuity. It is also not a parody. It is a look at a different part of the Star Trek universe which has lighter characters and situations. In fact, I’d say it’s far more based in what fans consider canon than anything else done under Kurtzman.

Oh, come on! It's cartoonesque, it's almost Tex Avery material. I mean you don't see people flattened by falling safes or pianos, walk by in the next scene but we're not very far from that.
 
Oh, come on! It's cartoonesque, it's almost Tex Avery material. I mean you don't see people flattened by falling safes or pianos, walk by in the next scene but we're not very far from that.

It could happen. It's a cartoon so there's no restraints for effects. It could happen a piano comes into existence just like that "poof" and falls on someone.
 
Oh, come on! It's cartoonesque, it's almost Tex Avery material. I mean you don't see people flattened by falling safes or pianos, walk by in the next scene but we're not very far from that.

What Tex Avery Cannon might look like

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Oh, come on! It's cartoonesque, it's almost Tex Avery material. I mean you don't see people flattened by falling safes or pianos, walk by in the next scene but we're not very far from that.

What are you talking about? The creator, McMahan, has been consistently on record saying he wants it to be a Star Trek show, existing in the same world as Picard and Data and the rest, and has worked with the producers of Picard and the overall Star Trek Universe team to maintain storyline consistency. There are zero cartoon elements in the first season that remotely resemble anything from the Looney Tunes library.
 
Oh, come on! It's cartoonesque, it's almost Tex Avery material. I mean you don't see people flattened by falling safes or pianos, walk by in the next scene but we're not very far from that.

Admittedly, it’s a little before 5am where I am at the moment, but I’m struggling to come up with some examples of what you mean. Please provide a few examples of where we’re close to Tex Avery.
 
Admittedly, it’s a little before 5am where I am at the moment, but I’m struggling to come up with some examples of what you mean. Please provide a few examples of where we’re close to Tex Avery.

The plague that turns everyone into spewing zombies instantaneously and is cured just as fast. I mean even by Star Trek standards that's a bit outrageous don't you think?

The alien "cow" that looks like a giant spider that spends half an episode sucking Boimler's naked body...
 
I'm not going to lie. If someone says, "They can't do this thing in Discovery or Picard because it contradicts Lower Decks!", I'm going to smack my forehead and roll my eyes. Then ask, "Really? Really?"

Just putting that out there right now. Sorry.
If LD is canon then Starfleet crew sleep in bunks on corridors among other nonsense.

It's fun but any reference other than maybe Riker having a model of the Titan in his house is dumb
 
The plague that turns everyone into spewing zombies instantaneously and is cured just as fast. I mean even by Star Trek standards that's a bit outrageous don't you think?

The alien "cow" that looks like a giant spider that spends half an episode sucking Boimler's naked body...

Yeah, it was silly when Genesis did that. And I don't see anything silly about the spider cows. We already know about land eels, sea lizards, wing-slugs, sea locusts, or condor snakes. Star Trek is full of crazy combination of alien animals, as it should be.
 
The plague that turns everyone into spewing zombies instantaneously and is cured just as fast. I mean even by Star Trek standards that's a bit outrageous don't you think?

The alien "cow" that looks like a giant spider that spends half an episode sucking Boimler's naked body...
For all we know this was the stuff that was happening on other ships while the Enterprise-D was hosting stuffy conferences.

TNG would have been a much better show if the crew had run into zombies and spider cows every now and then,
 
The zombie plague is almost a shot-for-shot remake of the Polywater plague from "The Naked Time," except everyone turns into zombies instead of drunks.

The spider cows were just a random alien creature on a random alien planet, that attacks a random crewman randomly. We see this in Basics, Star Trek 2009, That Hope is You, Part 1, The Galileo Seven, The Forge, A Private Little War...
 
The zombie plague is almost a shot-for-shot remake of the Polywater plague from "The Naked Time," except everyone turns into zombies instead of drunks.

The spider cows were just a random alien creature on a random alien planet, that attacks a random crewman randomly. We see this in Basics, Star Trek 2009, That Hope is You, Part 1, The Galileo Seven, The Forge, A Private Little War...

Ok, then, how about nobody dies? I haven't watched all the episodes yet but I have yet to see anybody die and I sort of suspect that it never happens.
 
CBS can decide that if they wanted to, yes. But don't hold your breath waiting for them to decanonize anything they make because they have no incentive to do that.
Cool I don't think they will or should either.
Bit the guy I was replying to said that something can not be de canonised
 
How much does Star Trek cost these days ?

Given that it's CBS All-Access's flagship franchise and the linchpin of their entire online media franchise going forward, I would guess that it'd be in the low billions at best. You'd be better off getting yourself a seat on the CBS board and making decisions from there.
 
Become a shareholder for CBS. Then you'll be able to do proxy voting and be able to vote yes, no, or abstain on the CBS Board of Directors' proposals. ;)

I used to work in a call center from 2010-2013 where we would contact shareholders to ask them if they wanted to vote on board proposals. I would've loved to have called CBS Shareholders and ask them, "CBS proposes to canonize ____ from Star Trek. Do you wish to vote along with the recommendations of the Board?" :p

And, no, I do NOT miss working in a call center. At all.
 
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