Fair enough I suppose they own the franchise.
So if someone else buys Trek next and says Discovery never happened then that becomes canon
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So if someone else buys Trek next and says Discovery never happened then that becomes canon
How much does Star Trek cost these days ?
No clue.
Nope. All the individual can do is like it or not. We don't get a vote on canon. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.
- Not you or me
- The people who own Star Trek and those they put in charge of creating new installments.
At best they might decide it's not in continuity ( no they aren't the same thing).
I'm not going to lie. If someone says, "They can't do this thing in Discovery or Picard because it contradicts Lower Decks!", I'm going to smack my forehead and roll my eyes. Then ask, "Really? Really?"
Just putting that out there right now. Sorry.
Just putting that out there right now. Sorry.
LD is obviously a parody, it can hardly be canon.
Tell that to the posters above, not me.
Tell that to the posters above, not me.
Well, I am telling it to anyone who happens to read my post.
If it’s not terribly obvious, I don’t care about canon, at least in the way many fans hold it so dear to their hearts. To be honest, I find canon to be a tapestry. Amazingly it holds together and can be gorgeous but the closer you get, you see details you’ve never seen before and can always see something new you’ve never noticed before. It’s ultimately something that can be drawn from but there’s always more to be seen.
At the end of the day, it’s a tool that writers can use to pull from. These writers likely have more nerdy discussions than even we do on this forum. And they still can’t please many fans because of the almighty canon. “Well geez, in episode 282, the engineering console went beep-beep-blip. But in episode 512, it went blip-beep-beep! That’s a canon violation. #notmystartrek”
Lower Decks doesn’t do anything that is a major violation of established continuity. It is also not a parody. It is a look at a different part of the Star Trek universe which has lighter characters and situations. In fact, I’d say it’s far more based in what fans consider canon than anything else done under Kurtzman.
At the end of the day, it’s a tool that writers can use to pull from. These writers likely have more nerdy discussions than even we do on this forum. And they still can’t please many fans because of the almighty canon. “Well geez, in episode 282, the engineering console went beep-beep-blip. But in episode 512, it went blip-beep-beep! That’s a canon violation. #notmystartrek”
Lower Decks doesn’t do anything that is a major violation of established continuity. It is also not a parody. It is a look at a different part of the Star Trek universe which has lighter characters and situations. In fact, I’d say it’s far more based in what fans consider canon than anything else done under Kurtzman.
This is more my view. Lower Decks is treated as canon even if it presents the material in a comedic sense. It is framed as a comedy so of course it has a lighter approach than a drama.
If it’s not canon because it’s a comedy then comedy episodes of other Star Trek series aren’t canon either.I don't understand why being a comedy would make in non canonical.
A lot of the canonites (canonistas?) seem to make the mistake of taking statements too literally.
Like, character X said this in episode Y so it must be true! But what if character X lied? Or got it wrong? Or if there are contradictory examples?
The techno cannon drives me nuts. "No floppy discs on Enterprise! Canon violation!"
But BIG violations are disruptive, and need to be addressed. They are OK if dealt with. Like ships firing while cloaked in Undiscovered Country. But transporting people in with the shields up during an episode is a screw up.
Like, character X said this in episode Y so it must be true! But what if character X lied? Or got it wrong? Or if there are contradictory examples?
The techno cannon drives me nuts. "No floppy discs on Enterprise! Canon violation!"
But BIG violations are disruptive, and need to be addressed. They are OK if dealt with. Like ships firing while cloaked in Undiscovered Country. But transporting people in with the shields up during an episode is a screw up.
Yes but the BOP in Undiscovered Country was designed to fire while cloaked so it breaks no rules.
Of course it can be (and is). Canon has nothing to do with tone, nor with contradictions. All previous canon Trek have contradicted each other whenever they liked and have produced stories with a completely ridiculous tone (whether intentional or not) even to the point of being parody-esque.
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